Lit Disney Wars: Episode 7 and the EU (Disney Purchasing Lucasfilm, intends to release Ep 7 in 2015)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by TypoCelchu, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus

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    As long as we're dishing rumors, I saw something today about Keri Russell, who did Felicity with JJ, hoping for a SW role. She'd be great as Jaina, I think, and age-appropriate for a post-FotJ plot, meaning less continuity problems. She's even the right height.
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  2. Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master

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    I refuse to read the post-NJO simply because of the depressing road they have taken.
  3. Obi-Wan21 Jedi Grand Master

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    I know, it has been so downtrodden and depressing in the post-ROTJ landscape. I can't stand it. Give me a clean wipe any day. Apologies if those find that offensive.

    To each their own, but I have to disagree. I don't really fancy her, and Jaina is the only good child to come out of the big families, that I'd rather have some unknown cast. But, in all honesty, I'd just rather they give Luke a female daughter instead, and find a new angle for the Solo children.
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  4. instantdeath Jedi Grand Master

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    I still think it'd be very interesting to give the Skywalker's a Force sensitive child and a non-Force sensitive child. Perhaps a daughter that's a Force prodigy, and a son that grows up to be more like Han? Or would it be better reversed?
  5. Zorrixor Force Ghost

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    So, I heard this rumour, about a rumour, which supposedly was about something about a rumour to do with how this other rumour had said there would be this massive wormhole that would transport Han to this other planet and Luke's skull would end up turned to crystal and put in this temple by some natives.
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  6. instantdeath Jedi Grand Master

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    I heard from a very reliable source that Waru will be the primary protagonist of the sequel trilogy.
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  7. Obi-Wan21 Jedi Grand Master

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    I think that's a solid device for a story. But I do think it should a Skywalker daughter who's a force prodigy. Maybe I've been watching too much Legend of Korra, but I think there's more than enough material for her, and hopefully evolve into a more solid legacy character than what we unfortunately have now. I just can't see Luke with two kids, that's my only quarrel. It would be interesting, though.
  8. Iron_lord Jedi Grand Master

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    One kid and one adult?

    Marrying Luke off a second time might be a bit iffy- as would revealing that he fathered a child on some random character and never looked back, though.
  9. Obi-Wan21 Jedi Grand Master

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    He wouldn't have to marry a second time, Mara doesn't have to die if the post-EU is obliterated and disney cherry picked the good from it. But, I never thought of it in that respect; a grown daughter just hitting her stride, a young, mischievous boy. Love it.
  10. Iron_lord Jedi Grand Master

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    Ben's a bit old to be the young, mischievous boy now.

    Hmm- maybe Callista or Akanah had a child and never told Luke?
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  11. Obi-Wan21 Jedi Grand Master

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    Then they would reverse age him, or remove him completely and create a new son. They don't have to hang on to anything.
  12. Iron_lord Jedi Grand Master

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    True- but I'm sure there's fans of the FoTJ series that will be a bit upset if they change it.

    Not very many such fans around, I suspect.
  13. Obi-Wan21 Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, it's not anyone's property, it belongs to companies and a man's vision of his universe. The EU has been brilliant, but with VII coming, I don't see them trying to keep that continuity intact with all of its errors. The EU will more than likely become AU. If not, I'll be shocked, but I don't care as long as the film itself is good. I just believe this is a super opportunity to clean up the mess, remove all the awful. But, those opinions are all in the eyes of the beholder.
  14. Zorrixor Force Ghost

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    I'll give you guys who believe in reboots this much: you've not lost your youthful optimism. ;)

    Me though? I remember the day when Tony Blair promised things could only get better... yeah...

    I have zero interest in watching the same train wreck twice. :p
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  15. instantdeath Jedi Grand Master

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    There would be a really interesting dynamic between them. Naturally, the boy would end up feeling very jealous of the girl; who wouldn't be jealous of their sibling who can leap dozens of feet and move ships with their mind?

    Just as an EU nod, perhaps call them Jacen and Jaina, to set up the idea that the events of the EU "happened", but in another reality. They'll be a different Jacen and Jaina, but still similar.

    Reboots are very much a double edged sword, I agree. Sometimes they can indeed invigorate new life into a franchise, I feel, but other times it feels like treading the same ground. The Amazing Spider-Man movie was fine for what it was, but it definitely felt way too familiar to me.

    Games are really getting into reboots as well. I'm actually quite excited for the Tomb Raider reboot. Devil May Cry rebooted this month. The Mortal Kombat reboot was the best thing to happen to the franchise in over a decade. A Resident Evil reboot is considered, which might very well be what the franchise needs. Of course, there's also the situation where a reboot feels something like a betrayal; I sympathize with the DC fans who are less than thrilled with the New 52.

    So I would definitely agree with people that say reboots are getting too common, and are quickly becoming the "easy way out" for a franchise to get out of whatever ditch they made for themselves. But it could work for Star Wars, at least for the short term. Will they be able to set up an entire long-running second EU? I honestly hope not. But I think we'll get at least a few good movies out of it.
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  16. Esg Jedi Grand Master

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    The Devil May Cry reboot had terrible writing on a game with decent game-play which reviews sucking it off even worse the LACWAC on TCW
  17. Obi-Wan21 Jedi Grand Master

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    How is the film a reboot with those events never happened on screen? The removal of the post-ROTJ EU is only a natural answer to the (very likely) possibility that Episode VII will obliterate that canon landscape, possibly rendering decades worth of story null and void. And it has nothing to do with wanting to reboot, rather it is well within the filmmakers rights to not be shackled by years of endless, sometimes clumsy, layers of canon that would only hinder storytelling potential, in my opinion.

    So, while the post-ROTJ EU would be rebooted, it would only be out of necessity rather than LFL's desire to start over. They aren't starting over, there weren't any films after ROTJ. It's freedom. And that's exciting.
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  18. instantdeath Jedi Grand Master

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    I haven't played it, but I've never been a fan of Devil May Cry (though I remember really enjoying DMC3). Still, has DMC ever been a game series you play for its writing?
  19. Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master

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    Ah, so Devil May Cry reboot is indeed terrible? I also only know the series for DMC3, and the redesign of Dante scared and infuriated me.
  20. instantdeath Jedi Grand Master

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    Would that by any chance be a Futurama reference? :p
  21. Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master

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    Futurama reference? Nope, never seen it.
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  22. Summer Dreamer Force Ghost

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    I still highly doubt the ST will do any more damage to the EU than TCW show has...
  23. instantdeath Jedi Grand Master

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    Behold!

    There was also another similar one I was looking for, but alas I can't find it.
  24. Esg Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah I hear they took the cheeseyness that made it so endearing and replaced it with cringe inducing moments of attempting to be edgy. For example having Vorgil kill a pregnant Demon woman and her baby, or the overuse of "**** you!" in an attempt to make Donte cool
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  25. Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master

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    Ah, I can see how you thought that was a reference.