Discussion in 'Literature' started by TypoCelchu, Oct 30, 2012.
Like times a quadrillion.
Or three million.
I put down Jacen, pre-DNT. What parts of the EU do you like the most, besides more relaxed rules for the Jedi?
I can't think of any.
Edit: I like the (for the most part) lack of Sith other than Palpatine in the pre-Legacy days.
--Han and Leia's marriage
--I'm going to say their children, although I would like for Jacen and Anakin's fates to be different, and I don't want Jaina going for Jag Fel
--Luke's creation of a New Jedi Order
ALL OF IT.
Bar the Coruscant Quadrilogy.
It's been said repeatedly that Pixar continuing the mediocre Cars franchise is because the merch for that movie made some really serious money.
I really love the optimism of people talking about "sales considerations" when talking about the EU while talking about the potential greatness of the upcoming ST, but I have a bad feeling they're going to be at least slightly disappointed.
Is that what you meant?
Yeah, I goofed. Edit time!
The EU has been pretty bad lately so I dunno. If they discontinue it I won't feel obligated to spend more money on it.
Why dont people say tetralogy, anymore?
The Alien franchise invented "quadrilogy" for the DVD boxset and now everyone uses it.
I wonder... what would the EU be like if there was no New Jedi Order (or if they did exist, still have the no marriage/family rule), no new Republic or its equivalent, and Han/Leia never got married or had any kids?
Because basically, looking at my list of things I would save, it's:
1. those things that we all assumed were inevitable that the EU made come true
(Han/Leia marrying and having kids, restoring the Republic, and Luke creating a new Jedi order, if the Sith come back at all then they completely ditch the Rule of Two)...
2. the distinct personalities of the new members of the SkySolo family tree...
3. and the unique evolution of the Empire.
Looking at the entire EU, I'd say it's the Empire's evolution that was most original and interesting. From the initial power vacuum, to collapse into warlordism, to semi-restoration and utter collapse, to the last remnant of the Empire reforming itself enough that the heroes are willing to make peace with it, to the heroes allying with the Empire to deal with common threats, to the Empire becoming more constructive and egalitarian, to the Jedi dynasty ruling the Empire and having its own Imperial Jedi while establishing an Imperial Mission that helps those who need it (and underlining its new nature as more about service).
ST subfourm pls
I think in Ep. 7 I'd like to see maybe 2 dozen, max, Jedi students under Master Skywalker. Allowing marriage / families I'm on the fence about, depends on how it works into the story, but I think it'd be a letdown if you walk into Ep. 7, Luke cracks his knuckles right before the Padawan sorting hat ceremony at the rebuilt Jedi Temple or what have you. There's a lot of drama in seeing Luke "pass on what he has learned" and starting at least small-ish. Like if the movie kicks off and he's done *nothing* for 30 years, that make him seem like a layabout. If the movie kicks off and it's PT-Jedi order Mark II, the audience missed the rebuilding bit.
You forget all those who have read comics in their youth and even if you have read the x-men you will still know quite a bit about Spiderman for instance. Then there are the ones who have seen marvel cartoon series as child, of which there were many...
So yes, a lot of people came into contact with these Marvel heroes. I myself remember watching Batman TAS and spiderman in my childhood, despite not being a comics reader back then.
Just a couple years ago there was X-men evolution for instance, running on TV, "infecting" young minds with Marvel heroes.
The Star Wars EU doesn't quite have the same reach the TV-shows and comics have.
Got a problem, Esg?
So, the EU's done is it? OK, let's see that means... Let's look at comics first:
The Dark Times arc' Spark Remains may well be the finale for that title. OK, one less book to buy with a good conclusion works for me.
Loss of Legacy Volume 2 - that'll suck.
Loss of Star Wood - 1st trade not yet out, impossible to truly judge but the omens aren't good.
Invasion? Carbonite mould terminated most likely.
DOTJ? Could and should be kept going, anyone who complains about the possible impact on the ST of a story 25 millennia before is clearly an idiot.
Books? Oh, so much easier - after Star Wars: Kenobi there is nothing I care about on the publishing timetable!
Would I continue to buy DHC's SW output while they have the license? Yes. But it would be to support DHC as opposed to LFL. Yes, they'll benefit, but only for so long as DHC have the licence.
Long-term? My SW buying, like my DC buys, declines greatly.
Oh and Sinny, what have you got against the Coruscant Quartet?
(Quadrilogy!? Honestly, young people today just don't know proper terminology!)
Ben, after Kenobi there isn't anything *on* the publishing timetable
And the Quartet has too many continuity concerns - Piell, Sing, Typho, Lancer frigates, the whole ruddy Darth Ramage business. Only one of those is caused by TCW. In my opinion, the payback is also not worth it. TCW, for example, gives me an interesting Ventress, Maul returned, Mortis, more Nightsisters, a Separatist Parliament, a new Mandalorian story, etc etc for the handful of issues, most of which we've gotten over by now. If I have to choose between which of the Piell issues to discard, I have TCW vs Quartet. Shrug.
I don't have to bother with TCW!
Frankly, I don't really care about the continuity elements - of all the stories to be beyond your skills, that set I wouldn't have picked - what I want is a set of fun stories with a well-done Vader and they give me that.
Oh and we have Maul: Lockdown post-Kenobi! Uhhh, yeah, that I'll be buying in hardback.,...
What if the ST has an ancient evil from that time?
So what if it does?
Sure, it could happen but if anyone thinks it wouldn't be seen through immediately as a hey-go-and-buy-this-tie-in-book-movie-suckiers move, they're being very optimistic.
But Vader didn't kill Jax.
Jax, who knows that Vader is Anakin.
And Jax then relied upon the super-duper Darth Ramage Holocron, a Holocron that was originally in the possession of Darth Sidious and Darth Vader. Yet Jax manages to work out how to open it, when the Dark Lords of the Sith don't.
And Aurra Sing is consumed by a meat grinder, yet reappears in Tempest.
Typho is killed by Vader, yet reappears in Galaxies.
One author is sure they killed Nick Rostu, who is in Shadows of Mindor.
I can retcon all of them away, but such bad editing doesn't endear me to it.
I place the blame on the editors, who obviously couldn't decide when it was even taking place!
As for Auura Sing, her turning up in Tempest was a bad idea. Then again, bad concept, bad character - no surprise she was badly handled.
I'm fairly certain Vader will get around to Jax, he has 200 Jedi to kill for the next decade or so after all.
1. How many non-fans would be aware of DOTJ?
2. This ancient evil could contradict the very existence of DOTJ. What if it's Darth Somebody who ruled the galaxy 25,000 years ago?