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Lit A/V The Force Awakens and the EU [TAGGED spoilers.]

Discussion in 'Literature' started by TypoCelchu, Oct 30, 2012.

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  1. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Apart from the artifice that is the post-ROTJ time period, that is what the Expanded Universe already is, whether people want to admit it or not. As great as a novel like Shatterpoint or Dark Rendezvous is, the characterizations and arcs within are irrelevant. Dooku is so awesome in Dark Rendezvous. Mace Windu is in Shatterpoint. So what? What does continuity do for that? The post-ROTJ is what everyone is so in awe about, and that tower was collapsed back in 2005. Continuity has been meaningless for nearly a decade. Episode VII will just be celebrating its tenth anniversary by making it official.
     
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  2. newdawn12

    newdawn12 Jedi Master star 4

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  3. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    It doesn't make much sense to me why Lucas would tell Ford, Hamill, and Fisher that their characters wouldn't be recast if they didn't participate in Episode VII, but they have no problem recasting them at an age closer to the age they were in the role.
     
  4. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    It doesn't?
     
  5. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Why wouldn't they recast them for Episode VII if they have no problem showing them at an age similar to the one they were in the OT?

    I think the Han Solo origin film is a stupid idea from a creative perspective. Harrison Ford made the role.
     
  6. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Dammit why don't they go with Boba? Daniel Logan's the perfect age, and even if he's a bad actor (I can't say if he is -- he seemed like a cool bloke at the conventions), you don't even need to have him say much! Make a kickass Boba Fett film -- it's a golden opportunity right now. The hype is there, the actor's there.

    Heck, we can still have old Boba Fett in a helmet telling the story played by Jeremy Bulloch! With Tamuera Morrison doing the grisled old voice!
     
  7. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Yeah, but boba fett is a BAD GUY....
     
  8. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Anti-hero. Not villain.
     
  9. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    An anti-hero is a protagonist. Boba Fett was not a protagonist.

    Han Solo is an anti-hero.
     
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  10. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Boba Fett is a villain in the movies.

    An antihero in many EU works.
     
  11. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Boba's an anti-hero....in books about Boba... ;)
     
  12. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Speaking of a Fett origin film, I can't see how they won't do one since Joe Johnston had already been pestering George to let him do one prior to the Disney acquisition and he directed the Captain America film.

    I don't understand why everyone seems to think that all the EU (IF IT ISN'T DESTROYED BY THE DISNEY DEATH STAR) is going to be geared around the sequel trilogy come 2015 but then they think that these alleged "origin films" are going to be about OT characters rather than brand new characters from the ST. All we have heard is Yoda, Boba Fett, and Han Solo, and comparisons are made to Marvel. But the Marvel films were about characters in the Avengers. Boba Fett, Han Solo, and Yoda aren't going to be starring in the sequel trilogy, or even necessarily playing a big role.
     
  13. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    But they could all have a "ROLE."

    But yeah, the SW universe is a big universe to explore, and it's only logical to do some origin stories. So, there it is. I for one am looking forward to a Johnston Boba Fett film.

    Hmmmm, origin stories could mean writing over the EU. Uh Oh!!![face_laugh][face_tee_hee]
     
  14. Lazy Storm Trooper

    Lazy Storm Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    I think this thread just made me lose a lot of interest in Star Wars...
     
  15. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Bookend it with Harrision ala that Young Indy episode and it'll go down easier. XYZ problem in Han Solo now / long origin flashbacks that elaborate on Han's beginnings and XYZ happening / XYZ resolved at end with Harrison "Han Solo" Ford.
     
  16. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I find speculation depressing too.
     
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  17. HWK-290

    HWK-290 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    This thread's tl;dr: many Star Wars EU fans don't care to see the series emulate comics.
     
  18. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Star Wars EU fans don't care to see new movies period apparently.
     
  19. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    A post-Crucible, fully EU continuity cohesive Episode 7 would probably please at least 56% of people posting in this thread!
     
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  20. HWK-290

    HWK-290 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Ewwwww.
     
  21. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    And approximately 6% of everyone else.
     
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  22. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Incorporating the post-NJO into the sequel trilogy is a good game plan for topping the prequel trilogy in badness.
     
  23. BigAl6ft6

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    The reason the origin films will be about the OT characters I think is mostly branding, branding, branding. ROTJ wrapped everything up rather neatly, and I highly doubt they're gonna bring Darth Vader back in the sequels, but set it in the OT and, hey now!, we can sell Darth Vader again! And Yoda too!

    I'm sure there will be ST-spinoff movies but that would be "Phase 2" ala Marvel, the first 2 or 3 out of the gate I can see being all OT-set.
     
  24. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think the person who could convey all the **** that happened in the time between the end of ROTJ to the end of Crucible in a three paragraph opening crawl in a way that didn't leave average viewers overloaded with information has Ernest Hemingway utterly destroyed in a contest of conciseness.
     
  25. HWK-290

    HWK-290 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I'm going to be shocked if there isn't a Wraith Squadron adaptation at some point. Standalone story, easily accessible, nice mix of action, drama, and humor, it's about X-Wings so HELL YEAH, and the narrative doesn't go for three pages without something awesome happening.

    The only stumbling block is the likely necessity of recasting Wedge. And the lack of lightsabers omg so coolz!

    This is the most commonly misunderstood thing on these boards: you don't need to convey everything that happened in between RotJ and Crucible if that's your time frame, you only need to convey what's relevant or has bearing on your trilogy.
     
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