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Lit A/V The Force Awakens and the EU [TAGGED spoilers.]

Discussion in 'Literature' started by TypoCelchu, Oct 30, 2012.

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  1. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    What, you don't want to engage in the continuity debate to end all continuity debates?
     
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  2. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I think that the reason that the entire EU was declared Legends is that much (if not all) of the EU depended on certain events happening post-ROTJ. For example, the entire Old Republic era depended on the Jedi Academy Trilogy occuring.
     
  3. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Uh, no it isn't. I'm pretty sure the removal of later events would not affect past events. Not even Lucasfilm continuity guardians are that dense and convoluted in how they think.
     
  4. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Please avoid getting so personal. Attack arguments, not people.
     
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  5. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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  6. Grey1

    Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group star 4 VIP

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    *coughYoda'sfirstvisittoDagobahcough*
     
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  7. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    Not the best example, because it turned out to be good policy, albeit for the wrong reasons. After all, his visit in the TCW arc was clearly meant to be his first, and the cave was already filled with dark side energy. So the old Bpfasshi Dark Jedi backstory still wouldn't have worked.
     
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  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    The "Minch vs Dark Jedi, on Dagobah" story, on the other hand, still works.
     
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  9. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Oh come on, you're all dancing around the big boys....

    3 million clonetroopers vs how long is a Super Star Destroyer once more?
     
  10. Grey1

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    I thought the big one was whether Cad Bane does he contradict EU or not.

    Was the policy really all that good? TCW would have managed to decanonize any earlier visit with the wave of a hand, it didn't need an intermediary to prepare the canon landscape for it. And even if you give a lot of leeway to the fact that the "first visit to Dagobah in ROTS' deleted scene" ruling might have been intended at its time, officially it was based on a vague description in a shooting script. So neither did Lucas say "I want that", nor did it turn out that he wanted it since TCW didn't care either. In this case, the continuity guardian spent time on interpreting vague lines without any positive effect whatsoever.
     
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  11. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    That is the least of the problems that arc had, especially in relation to what happens in ROTS.
     
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  12. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, we actually went through all this at great length when the episode first came out, and many of us didn't see any problems with it in that regard.
     
  13. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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  14. TrandoJedi

    TrandoJedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  15. Valin__Kenobi

    Valin__Kenobi Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji star 4 VIP

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    Actually the best part of that page is the pics from the 90s and late 80s, which makes me now reimagine the whole Bantam era with the look:

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  16. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I foresee this picture being re-purposed for future covers of post ROTJ / pre Ep. 7 NEU novels.
     
  17. Valin__Kenobi

    Valin__Kenobi Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji star 4 VIP

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    I know right?

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    He played the villain in the movie Slipstream which seems to be viewable in its entirety on YouTube here. Just going by stills he looks Luke cosplaying as the War Doctor.
     
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  18. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Oh if he is just triping on Dagobah and remembers nothing of it, there is no problem, otherwise, yeah... :rolleyes:
     
  19. Matt Skywalker

    Matt Skywalker Jedi Knight star 3

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    I hope whatever animated series takes place between Ep 6 and Ep 7 adopts that look.

    Please.....

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  20. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    VK -- that top image looks awfully like Invasion's NJO Luke, except with facial hair added. It was a cool look, especially as we never really saw Luke aging at all on US book covers.
     
  21. Matt Skywalker

    Matt Skywalker Jedi Knight star 3

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    I dunno, Vector Prime had a haggard looking Luke for being just in his early forties.

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  22. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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  23. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Nice hand. :eek:
     
  24. Valin__Kenobi

    Valin__Kenobi Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji star 4 VIP

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    Yeah, before the NJO they kept reusing the same OT stills for every cover. I realize they didn't have the licensing permissions for photo reference of the actors outside the movies, but when you're painting the covers how hard could it have been to throw a little aging on there?

    The funny thing is that apparently Slipstream dropped into the public domain, so future artists should be able to use it as much as they want. :p
     
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  25. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    And then after NJO they started using photoshopped versions of the old stills, or at least drawings based on them. 'Cause that makes total sense.
     
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