Lit A/V The Force Awakens and the EU [TAGGED spoilers.]

I disliked them. They were poorly acted but more to the point they didn't do anything really worthwhile plot-wise. I wanted more than "we're putting together an organization". One of them was a little better than the others but it left out some dialogue that was in the script.

 

Honestly, instead of purely solo* character spin-offs, I'd enjoy something like a "Founding of the Rebellion" spin-off, that was essentially Episode 3.5 in all but name. and which could do those scenes more justice in a story that focused on them.

*no pun intended

 

So that's what Lucas needed the Disney money for.

Something’s happening. I’m not the audience I should be. I want more. And I know I shouldn’t.

 

What if the last line of TFA contains the subliminal trigger-word that frees us all from the notion that Star Wars is somehow special, and we can just watch them as mundane movies from then on...

I mean, it's been almost a decade without a Star Wars film and we still haven't settled on a reasonable accepted standard of what to expect.

 

What you describe is the death of magic.


[for maximum effect, pathos in this post has been set to 11]

 

Let me once again use my restaurant metaphor. What you want us to expect is your average, "mundane" burger joint or taqueria. Good enough. But there are increasingly few options left in "niches" outside that mainstream.
Star Trek was like the family-run Banh Mi place down my street - It had some extreme flavors and textures on the menu that many palates don't like, it was never extremely clean or nice in there, and the menu in Vietnamese made it intimidating to some who came in off the street, but it had a loyal following that popped in after work every day, and turned a nice profit for its owners. The people who ate there loved it. But the title ends up in the hands of a bigger company, to whom that steady revenue stream looks like small beans, so they tear the old place down and build yet another Chipotle or Subway. It may have more customers, and higher profit margins, it may be cleaner and more modern, but that diversity is gone, and the people who love those spicy little sandwiches can't get their fix.
The Original Trilogy fit a niche. It was brilliant in so many ways, and struck a chord so deep that we're still analyzing every minute detail these many years later, while countless other films are largely forgotten. It remained unique in so many ways despite legions of imitators - and it's not that I have unrealistic expectations; there are many directors and writers out there who I think would be plenty up to the task... JJ is just not among them.
I'm fine with having another "mundane" modern action franchise to go sit through when I'm in the mood, but there are already plenty of those; I didn't want Star Trek turned into that, and I certainly don't want it to happen to Star Wars.
"The world's still the same, there's just less in it." is a very apt way of putting it.

 

At this point two things can happen with Ep 7. It will be good and we will like it and JJA goes off to do something else no one has to care about. It is bad and destroys JJA careers and the other Star Wars learn from it. So win/win either way.

 

What I'm still hung up on is the fact that we are pretty much guaranteed a never ending string of movies until its no longer profitable (which will never happen). Call me crazy but I like it when stories have an ending. ROTJ is the perfect ending for SW movie-verse. Now SW is like James Bond, 30 years from now the talk will be 'who is the new Luke Skywalker' and it will be up to Ep 20 Revenge of the Dark Falls 2: Even Darky-er

I can't wait until they remake Ep4 with more action and 'splosions.


*off topic*
Not that i'm bashing James Bond flicks (i enjoy most of them) but I don't think every franchise should be as long lasting. Most should be allowed to pass on.

 

Coming soon, in 2016, Star Wars: A New Hope.
Re-shot by director Michael Bay.

 

Some how, there will be a car chase. And numerous giant robots fighting. And a love story that no one cares about but is shoved down our throats regardless. Oh wait, that's AotC. Never mind.

 

I too hate crass commercialism over Art, but Star Wars has been that way for years. The EU by definition is crass commercialism, frankly.

But within the frames of endless new films, good stories can be told. I feel that Star Wars was one of the few franchises where a set of 3-6 films was far too small for the potential this galaxy has. The problem is the stories they plan need to fit within a limited time frame, else suffer a fate of premature cancellation like Clone Wars.

My point is you can have a proper ending within a confined set of stories in a larger universe, but plan ahead for them dang it, and then give them a chance to reach their conclusion! Lord knows if Rebels will even get that chance based on season one ratings, let alone anything else they keep throwing out. An over-saturation of films could also happen very easily if they don't deliver something special each time.

 

What the story Group is sharing with Marvel

http://jordandwhiteqna.tumblr.com/p...input-does-the-story-group-have-on-your#notes

 

Is this the Banh Mi place you're talking about?

 

And in Episode 6: The Bay Edition, the Endor Holocaust will finally become a reality.

 

But really, ANH is pretty much still on par with today's films in terms of how pew-pew-pew it is. It's almost incessant apart from the Tatooine part.

 

My mom has described ESB as "the one that's non-stop fighting." So I guess it's a matter of perceptions and memory.

 

really? I've felt that Star Wars is much more deliberately paced than most contemporary films, which really shows how slowly paced they were before 1977

 

Meh, already saw that on Robot Chicken.

 

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction as well.

 

To be fair, ESB is a bit like the James Last record of action movies.

And yeah, I do not really think that.

 

Did you reply: "No, but they will be back playing their younger selves, with the help of the makeup department - those guys can do wonders, I tell you, wonders!"