Lit A/V The Force Awakens and the EU [TAGGED spoilers.]

It seems like they doing more and more tv shows of Star Wars. I just hope they don't mess up the aging process as badly as they did with Ahsoka Tano. (I will give Episode 7 more of a pass because its real life and people age how they age, but cartoons are a bit different.)
Teenage Ahsoka

Older Ahsoka in TCW

New Older Ahsoka in Rebels.

Notice how different the Rebels version of Ahsoka is then either of the TCW Ahsoka versions. I understand that characters get older but at least they should be recognizable enough to tell who they are. The new version of Ahsoka looks like another torguta. The facial coloring and coloring of the head tails are all wrong. The head tails are also too short and too curved for an adult torguta.

 

Different art styles. Bail Organa looks nothing like he did in TCW, either, and neither does Tarkin for that matter.

Besides, the one from Mortis is obviously older than she is in Rebels, just going by length of head-tails alone. Even Shaak Ti doesn't have head-tails as long as the TCW future!Ahsoka did. Heck, the TCW future!Ahsoka doesn't look anything like she did as a teenager in the same show, it certainly looks less like her than the Rebels version does.

 

Yeah. I just figured that their head-tails grow continuously longer as they age; at least, the females. The males seem to develop theirs like an elk's antlers in TCW.



TOR and other depictions of males have their head-tails and horns look identical to females', though. And TCW had some females with elk-like horns, too.

 

If it helps, Anakin looks totally different in Rebels too.

 

I think it's great she looks different, it's realistic. However, do I like the vibe of it, no.

Wow, never ceases to amaze me how condescending some are here regarding some actually liking both Trek and Wars. Personally, IV is my fave film, then IX but it's NOT because it's 'funny' or 'light' such traits are almost universally a fail for me because like Zeta I am bored stiff by what the 'average audience' wants or at least what studios *assume* they want. I like them for the moral messages and depth. SW is sadly much more flash and action often with little substance.

 

she's got a detachable robot arm!

 

Could you provide an example of this? I couldn't find it in this thread.

 

Captain America The Winter Soldier felt like a slightly less convoluted version of 3 days of the Condor (which the Russo brothers admitted was a big influence) and rereading the 3 days plot I can see what they pulled and tweaked from it (within the the two comic storylines used.)

 

So, wait... it's bad to be condescending, or... isn't it?

 

My biggest complaint is the facial coloring. Its way off and doesn't match when she was younger. At least the TCW older Ahsoka had the same coloring.

 

You're focusing on big budget blockbusters, when I was discussing the rip-offs regularly released a summer after. It's understandable why you don't think about them though: because even you've forgotten their existence, because summer popcorn fillers are disposable and quickly forgettable. Unless you think stuff like I Am Number Four is actually good? Sure, it made three times its production cost, so, purely economically, it was a success.

Didn't stop it being trash, though, or trying to just cash in on the big name Marvel heavy hitters.

I really can't help but get the impression people didn't read Zeta's post and just jumped on him because, OMG, it's Zeta, he hates everything, he must be talking nonsense like always, when the films you're leaping to defend aren't the ones he was criticising.

 

You've use Spider-Man 3 as an example and now I Am Number Four is the kind of thing we're dealing with? I didn't miss the point, I just missed the redistribution of it.

Um, yeah, sure. Have at I Am Number Four and The Darkest Hour and The Seeker: The Dark is Rising and all those other films that captured the broad public's imagination.

 

Again, Zeta's original comment:

Spiderman 3, I Am Number Four, The Seeker, whatever example you want to use, all were examples of popcorn movies with little real depth, hence why it's understandable why people like Zeta may dislike them for being of little substance. You don't have to agree with his opinion, but it just irked me yesterday that people just saw the name "Zeta" and instantly attacked him as a moron because, god forbid, he had a different opinion and liked different films.

 

which is why i loved the NJO series

 

http://au.ibtimes.com/star-wars-force-awakens-princess-leias-star-destroyer-weapon-revealed-1426854

Details about new super weapons from both the good guys and bad guys.

 

If true, it doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm. Should I feel bad for that?

 

IBT is a dreadful site. They just regurgitate news and information without bothering to fact-check or edit it. That said,

"A kamikaze-like craft capable of taking down Star Destroyer sized spacecrafts.” “The Sledgehammer is a tough weapon that just crashes through capital starships, maybe even entire fleets,”

So... the Sun Crusher? Is this one of those rumors where someone just read through old material and copy/replaced the names?

 

Um. That original comment you're quoting doesn't refer to any specific films. What it's complaining about are simply "movies for the average theater going audience" which is honestly just jaw-dropping in its snobbery. I think people are objecting to that more than anything.

 

Yep. Snobbery is an attitude---not a list of movies. You can watch movies like this and be completely sincere about it, and you can watch terrible B-movies and be a gasbag about it.

And frankly Zeta has described liking movies for the "average theater-going audience," so... IMO, the premise doesn't really stick. All it really comes down to is, some people like some stuff and other people like other stuff. We all want to think the stuff we like is better than the stuff we don't; it doesn't make it true, and posturing yourself as an underdog doesn't make snobbery any more noble.

 

Yes yes you should. But in all honestly I don't care for it either. I am all super weaponed out. Though it is better than the Death Star 3 rumors. Death Star 3...sounds like a b-action movies: "This time things are personally forever."

 

If you want to see how formula stories can be done well, read Dresden Files. Butcher uses familiar ingredients in each literary cocktail, but because he's so damn good at varying the exact mix, each book doesn't feel formulaic.

 

The last book is a prime example of that. Another heist novel? Fine. A supernatural heist novel. Hmm, ok. A supernatural heist novel where our lead wizard is only part of the crew and not leading it. Very nice. The heist involving traveling into hell to steal from Hades? Sold.

Granted, I've been a huge fan of the series since I marathoned through the first twelve in like two months back in freshman year, but still.

 

Oh shut it you, I'm about to grab the paperback of Skin Game tomorrow night! It'll then be a SW vs Dresden death-march as to which gets read first.

 

Far from a spoiler if I basically just summarized the summary that's on the back of the US covers, my good man