ST Diversity in the Sequel Trilogy (see warning on page 11)

Let me answer the specific question:
"why is it OK for Finn to be nearly killed and lose a lot but not okay for Rey?"

1: taking the question at face value, the answer would be "because a writer can create two characters with varied, differing skill sets, and different roles within a dynamic, which may or may not shift over the narrative"
In other words: writers can make up characters who do stuff they want the characters to do.

2: it would be OK for Rey to "nearly be killed"; she just happened not to be in this film.

3: you seem to be bringing a specific desire to have a certain type of black male represented which you are prioritising above another character

4: point of clarity; women aren't "a minority", though with the amount of backlash once the gender that makes up 50% of the population gets 25% representation as lead characters in Star Wars, you'd assume they are

 

Yep What Girl insinuated this earlier on. She spotted it a mile off. We may have disagreements on here and with a lot of certain parts of fandom. This thread though, what can I say? Freakish, nasty and horrible.

 

Not what I'm saying. I'm talking about balance. It doesn't make her weak to need help it makes her human. I'm not making this an either or situation. You're the one basically saying she's weak if she needs someone to save her even if only one time. All I'm saying is that I want to see it so Finn and everyone else for that matter don't look so inferior and unimportant next to her.

 

I wasn't gonna say I prefer a damsel in distress vs a Mary Sue..what I just want is a healthy balance of all. But threads like these bring out all the ugliness in some people. That's why I just stand back and watch instead of comment.

I do have a bone to pick that the last 2 Star WARS movies under KK are starring 2 brunette actresses who look very similar. I would even go as far and say I like Jyn's story(so far) cause she's relatable than the all powerful but vulnerable Rey(good story still not buying self taught Force mind trick scene).

But then again Star WARS is vast..opportunities for some many things, races, and genders. They are just getting started with their new universe.

 

*Sees ending of TFA with comatose Finn being carried to the Falcon by Chewie. Then sees this post. Cries a little on inside for Finn*

*Talks to himself in a corner, in the fetal position*

"It will get better. It will get better. It will get better......"

 

Shadojoker Exactly.

 

But if it was a female being carried off it would of been the perfect ending for the film, the hero would have saved the day and off to become a jedi

 

I dont mind the women as central leads,or people of color as central leads..it's about time for Hollywood to make up for all the years of shoving all life on Earth is all white except for the help and comic relief.

Just saying balance it out naturally. Back to back movies kinda scared me. (E7 and Rogue One)...but in all fairness it's how the story fell. And I'm ok with it. Solo movie is looking to be like Fast And Furious 5 in space with their cast,and im sure Boba Fett,the next movies (Obi-Wan) deliver as well.

 

First sentence is exactly what I was saying. Finally someone gets where I'm coming from.

 

Yeah it worries me too. Disney really like to bleed franchises dry.

 

CEB
Probably Luke.
In the OT, there are many times where Luke had to be saved by Obi Wan or Han.

The more Luke trained and got better, then he started to save Han. And by the end of RoTJ, Luke was more powerful than Obi Wan. The audience saw Luke's growth.

Mentors and older figures (like Han and Obi Wan), are often used as the stepping stone measuring sticks of the hero or heroine of the story.

 

Rogue One preceded by TFA with lead actresses who look just alike. (To answer your Back to back question)

Balance..meaning aside for Han Solo .I hope the next 3 SW movies won't be starring women who look like younger Kathleen Kennedy clones..give me a Twi'liek female if you go that route.

I'm all for diversity(people of color) AND female leads..just not overboard.

Like Rickleo123
If the Twilight,Harry Potter, and or Hunger games movies did a 2 spinoffs or reboot starring Anthony Mackie, Donald Faison and Halle Berry..I'd be kinda suspect...

But how 24:Legacy is doing without Kiefer Sutherland..I'm all for that.

 

After VIII, the next SW movie is about young Han Solo. The white male anti-SJW crowd gets their turn in the spotlight too. For the rest of us not obsessed with these things, it's just Anthology #2. Win/win.

 

I'd be cool with it if they didn't look the same. If not you got the same thing as before.

No longer Blonde hair blue eyed hero but now it's brown eyed brunette!? Wth? Naw son..

 

I seemed to have liked a post but I missed half of the conversation, I feel guilty I liked it. Sorry!

 

I think she should have said nothing at all. I do not mind female leads or characters, why not? But now she makes this statement and it will only annoy people more. TFA and rogue one female leads why not. We have a han solo film coming anyways ? And i'm sure the spin off after that will be a male lead movie.

 

You can always take back the like.. no judgement here

 

yeah and that's why Han was never my favorite character. I'm just not into these macho types.

 

All I care is that they keep cranking out SW movies every year! Everything else we'll deal with the details here as they come.

 

for me it is just a personal preference.