Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by Mzukiller, Oct 7, 2012.
Or Sith to be Sorcerers? I mean Star Wars is partly fantasy, so how do you think it all goes?
No, they all are Maiar.
We heard Uncle Owen refer to Ben Kenobi as a ''Wizard'' but I think it was due to a lack of knowledge of these matters which he didn't really understand.
To me SW isn't what can be called fantasy.. I mean mystic powers can be found as well in different kind of fiction work.
This is a topic more suited to the Star Wars community boards.
It's all pretty wizard. - Kitster
Moving to Community.
And, FWIW, no, they're not wizards. 'Jedi scientists' are mentioned in the ANH novel; when you have people who study you via the scientific method (presumably, anyway ) you're not magical. The Force is still not very well understood per the ROTS novel, but there are some things that can be safely stated about it.
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Yoda you be crazy!!!
Bit much even for a dark jedi, they were probably sith
Obi-wan: oh give up Lars you great prune
obi-wan: yer a wizard Luke,
The "Jedi Scientists" bit is in the context of there being as much magic as science in explanations of the Force:
"It is an energy field and something more. An aura that both controls and obeys. A nothingness that can accomplish miracles. No-one, not even the Jedi scientists, were able to truly define the Force. Possibly no-one ever will. Sometimes there is as much magic as science in the explanations of the force. Yet what is a magician but a practicing theorist? Now, let's try again."
Sure, but still. It can be studied. Magic by definition cannot.
Depends on the kind of fantasy. In Discworld, wizards basically "study magic"- even discovering its fundamental particle, the thaum.
Jedi are not wizards, or superheros. They are Jedi.
Some Jedi are pretty close to being superheros
Some are super and heroic, but in general, Jedi are not the same as superheros, even though they have powers and use them for good.
I know that they are not superheroes. Superheroes wouldn't have gone down so quick during an order 66 scenario.
Jedi can't cast spells or potions or anything like that, but I think every word has a connotation to it. The word "witch" or "sorceress" or "sorcerer/warlock" has a very dark feel to it, if you're talking about a magic user, than just calling her a jedi. But i guess they're wizards.
Same thing with superhero. Calling a jedi a superhero means putting them in the same category as Spiderman, X men, superman, batman, iron man, deadpool, green lantern, robin, thor, nick fury, guys like that.
The Jedi are a lot less unrealistic than those guys. Which is saying something.
"that wizard's just a crazy old man"
"that's wizard annie"
it seems to mean a lot of different things in the GFFA
must be the GFFA's F word
I don't know what to classify Jedi. I guess they aren't superheroes, but then again, I don't like the feel of the word wizard/witch on the Jedi, since it means that Leia is a space witch, and Luke, Anakin/Vader, obi wan, yoda, and windu are all space wizards. It has a very dark feel and connotation to it.
Owen lars didn't mean wizard like a sorcerer type of wizard. He meant wizard like a wise old man. He wouldn't want Luke knowing about the Force or the Jedi. He kept Luke's father's history as a knight a secret and lied to him that he was a space freighter. He defnitley wouldn't tell Luke about the Force. Calling obi wan a wizard implies he has magical powers aka the force.
No, not even close.
I'm pretty sure the Jedi were loosely based on samurai and shaolin monk types, not wizards. As for the science of being Jedi, it's there in the books and movies...medichlorians and lightsaber crystals and all that.
Why aren't the Jedi wizards? A wizard/sorcerer is a person who controls supernatural forces, ie, magic, which is the force is supernatural and mystical too. Jedi are wizards, and female jedi are witches too, including Leia. How are they not witches and wizards? Telekenesis, levitation, mind-reading, force lightning, telepathy, clarivoyance, visions of the future and past, all sound very magical and mystical to me.
Jews worship God and so do Christians. But they are not of the same religion.
Leia is a Jedi, not a witch.
Jedi control the force. Force=supernatural mystical energy field. Magic=supernatural powers. Witch=female user of magic
Leia=female force user
Leia=female magic user
Just because witch has dark connotations that dont work in sci-fi doesn't mean Leia isn't a witch. What's the definition of a witch, wizard, sorcerer, in your opinion? The force is magic. It's supernatural powers.