Lit Do you like the new canon?

Both canon and legends are great but I favor canon more.

 

Troy Denning didn't have any problem having Luke order the assassination of a whole bunch of One Sith on Coruscant in FOTJ: Apocalypse, and painting it as a Good Thing.

Maybe it's not just the deeds themselves, but how they're painted, that matters?

 

Never got the not showing friendship complaint.
They have a real father son dynamic in AotC.
Then RotS shows us how much they've grown together.
Sitting in the theater in '05 and seeing how far they had come absolutely sold it for me.

All your other points are nonsense too, but the above one is something I see too often.

 

You're not saying much, really.

 

Overall, I'm glad things got a reboot.

Pros:

- Darth Vader got his groove back: One of my favorite characters of all time. Disney is giving him the respect he deserves. (Rogue One, Rebels, Dark Lords of the Sith, and Gillen's Comic Series)

- Kylo Ren: So far I like this character. He isn't some over the top bad guy. His issues make him interesting and I was surprised he was named Ben since Kenobi was closer to Luke.

- Force Unleashed removed: Very pleased this is removed. Flat out hated this story and never liked Starkiller's Character. Too powerful. Happy to see this go bye-bye

- Luke Skywalker reboot: Another character that became too powerful.

- Mara Jade removed: Never liked the character

Cons:

- 2003 Clone Wars Cartoon not Canon: Ziro the Hutt and Gungans defeating Grievous counts but this masterpiece does not? I thought this was by far the best media representation of a Star Wars Prequel. Light years better than the movies and CGI Cartoon combined. That is the correct way you represent Grievous and Anakin

- Dark Disciple Book: Dooku and Quinlan Vos are two of my favorite characters. This book read like a chapter from Twilight than it did Star Wars and none of the characters voices sounded right. Ventress: "Vos, I love you! Don't fall to the dark side!"

 

Genndy Anakin is identical to PT Anakin.

 

By all means, ask me what exactly you want to hear. I found the Prequels boring, the protagonists unlikable, the story poorly written, and the morality muddled. It was different from the OT but in ways which were bad while the similarities in TFA made it substantially better than the PT. I didn't dislike the Prequels but compared to the OT and TFA, they made me feel unhappy and depressed.

Ditto RO.

So what am I not making clear?

 

Is there anyone who thinks Luke was acting in character in FOTJ?

The Luke who brushes off assassinating the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order?

Who makes no effort to redeem any Sith?

Who finds out his nephew is in hell and brushes it off?

 

What about about what you're saying makes the PT bad.

 

Maybe where he said "I found the Prequels boring, the protagonists unlikable, the story poorly written, and the morality muddled."
Boring. Unlikable. Poorly written.

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But that's all subjective.

 

The issue is, and always has been when discussing things with Point_Of_View is that he physically doesn't understand how other people can thing differently than him. The same thing happened when discussing TFA, where he couldn't accept that anyone would like the movie.

 

So....is good and bad?

Art is not mathematics.



I also don't hate the Prequels as I enjoyed many elements of them. I just don't think they're better than the OT. You can also enjoy a movie which is poorer made than another one.

 

Here's an idea - you want people to keep talking with you? Start using better phrasing than this.

 

Don't ever reply to me again.

 

To talk about the new canon and why THE FORCE AWAKENS is better than the previous universe, it manages to streamline what I feel was a big number of issues going on with the Legends universe.

* 30 years of peace
* Successfully introduces new protagonists while visually showing our heroes have aged and moved on.
* Manages to make the Imperial Remnant a serious threat without looking like our heroes dealt in half-measures.
* Updates the racial and gender balance a bit, though Star Wars was never as bad as people sometimes claimed it was and far more responsive than most movie franchises to criticism.
* Does a nice job integrating all of the various Prequels and spin offs into a single narrative.

 

Charley I agree with you on many things, but on this we will have to disagree.

 

You shall go to the Ignore System, there it will be ensured that we never converse again.

 

Eh, you're entitled to your opinion. It's not like art is an objective science.

Presently, 14% of critics like The Orville while 90% of audiences do.

 

Amen.

Anyway - this is all slightly off topic per OP - aren't we meant to be discussing the new canon rather than a (in my view, very tired and overplayed) complaint of the PT?
I think readers of this thread will be put off wading through pages of discussion on why everything is "subjective". People have opinions. We respect each others opinions. What more to discuss is there?

Who has insight on the new canon comics? I have little experience on them (anything published post 2015 really) and would like a low down - worth it, how much has been published, when taken as a whole which collections have been best etc?

 

I wouldn't be too concerned, tangents happen but threads also tend to have self-correcting properties - if it stays off-course for too long there'll be a Mod Squad intervention too.

EDIT: Ah yes, you mentioned comics....

The first SW arc, Skywalker Strikes is a huge amount of fun and is well coordinated with the star story of the comic line to date - Vader. All 25 issues of that, including the madly fun Vader Down event are well worth reading.

Shattered Empire I like a great deal as it has Checchetto art and is one of the exceedingly few appearances of post-Jedi Luke.

Kanan is a great limited run that slots neatly into Rebels.

While the Leia, Lando and Chewie minis were entertaining.

Sadly Marvel seem to have ceased issuing the new material in OHC editions, so my interest is on hold until that happens once more.

 

Honestly i've found over the last half-decade or more that I'm generally more accurately informed about how I'll like things if I treat critics score like golf (ie. Lower is better).

Basically if its not some ethical or moral commentary on a past or present social issue, its not going to get well reviewed. They seem to have forgotten that most people go to movies for entertainment rather than heavy social commentary all the time. Sure that has a place in art, it always has, but that isn't the only thing it should be either.