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Saga Do you think we have already seen the "best" and "worst" SW films??

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Avnar, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. JDN21

    JDN21 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think that 1980s fantasy sci-fi feel that TESB and ROTJ had is the true essence of Star Wars. Therefore, it would be difficult to see TESB ever topped.

    They could strike lucky with a really good anthology film - Rogue One was excellent, but it would have to be pretty much perfect to compete with the gravitas of an original trilogy saga movie.
     
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  2. lookameatbag

    lookameatbag Jedi Knight star 4

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    After TESB, I don't see how the bar can go any higher.
     
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  3. MWPP294

    MWPP294 Jedi Youngling

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    As long as the big mouse owns Star Wars, nothing this studio ever does will even come close to crossing over into the same galaxy as AOTC and TPM for me.

    But no, I think the worst things Star Wars has to offer has yet to come. To quote Count Dooku: "This is just the beginning."
     
  4. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Hand of the Mod Squad and Enforcer of the Realm star 6 Staff Member Manager

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  5. MWPP294

    MWPP294 Jedi Youngling

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    I'm not "bashing" Disney, nor did I bash any of the new movies. Bashing would have been me saying something much more vulgar or condescending that is written in a way to get a rise out of people with opposing viewpoints. I am simply answering this question honestly and what I said shouldn't offend anyone unless they are completely new to the Internet and can't stand when others oppose their viewpoints especially the status quo.
     
  6. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Hand of the Mod Squad and Enforcer of the Realm star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    You and I have slightly different definitions of what constitutes bashing. But in any event, I was giving you and everyone else a friendly reminder.

    So we don’t don’t derail this thread any further, if you have any further questions PM me.


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  7. MWPP294

    MWPP294 Jedi Youngling

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    Oh...well I understand that and sorry if I came off as too defensive with my post, I thought you were directing your message solely at me.
     
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  8. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Hand of the Mod Squad and Enforcer of the Realm star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Its all good. Certain threads in this forum tend to lend themselves bashing are we are pretty sensitive toward it. You are right however that there can be a fine line between constructive criticism and bashing.


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  9. Anslyder

    Anslyder Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Well, ROTS is the best for me so far and I haven't seen the worst yet.

    I watch SW purely for my enjoyment so I don't really care about the new ones surpassing the old movies as long as Lucasfilms deliver something I can enjoy.
     
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  10. Jamtia

    Jamtia Jedi Knight star 3

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    Really hard to say on both. I don't think anything will top the originals. But I would like to see some films on par with them. I think ROTS,TFA, TLJ, RO, could potentially be a tier below them (my opinion), but not on their level.
     
  11. ChillCaladbolg

    ChillCaladbolg Jedi Youngling

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    The answer to both questions is probably no, if we are just speaking generally.

    For Star Wars, considering it in its context and as the mythic saga that it is, I feel the pinnacle is Revenge of the Sith and I do credit much of that to the unique mind of George Lucas. It’s both the center piece and the grand finale to his original saga. So I think it would take a lot to top that.

    As for just general contemporary film quality, without really considering the other films or overall context too much, I think The Last Jedi is the best so far. But it can always be topped.

    As for the worst, it can always be worse. They’ve never had an all out disaster with the production of one of these movies. Until they do, I don’t think the worst is potentially here yet.
     
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  12. Darth Voorhees

    Darth Voorhees Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I have faith in Ep 9
     
  13. Darth 47.1

    Darth 47.1 Jedi Master star 3

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    I think there is plenty of potential left in the franchise. There can be a dozen more movies with ups and downs and as long as they can keep it interesting it does not have to stop. And it certainly does not have to be contained within the immediate vicinity of the Skywalker saga. The Old Republic era is a great potential series to look into or something in the Unknown Regions or far off into the future looking at how the galaxy has changed since the time we are used to although I am not as interested in what happens 200 years from the current.

    The Bond franchise is a fairly good example of a very long running franchise that has had some great movies after some truly terrible ones that could have ended the run.
     
  14. CaptainEO

    CaptainEO Jedi Master star 1

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    I think ESB is locked in place as the best. I rate TLJ as the worst and, I do think that there could be a worse movie than TLJ. Like we have yet to have a straight up terrible movie. One where the effects are bad (for it's time) and the story is even worse. But hey, the guy who wrote Justice League is working on the script for next one, so there's always a bigger (bad movie making) fish.
     
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  15. Wrenegade

    Wrenegade Jedi Knight star 3

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    I too am dreading Oscar winning writer Chris Terrio being involved in Episode IX.
     
  16. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Interesting question...

    I believe we haven't yet seen the worst of SW. After all, things have a tendency to dilute naturally, rather than enrich. Looking at several different franchises can be great examples of this. I'm sure anyone here can think of some of the same ones I'm thinking of. And I do believe we have already seen the best of SW. IMO anything that comes after is basically becoming a "copy of a copy" of sorts, that's the way I see it.

    However, I do believe that if they start fresh with all new....everything, there's a CHANCE the same kind of enthusiasm we've seen in the OT and PT days can possibly be revived. But then again, it could wind up like the Fantastic Beasts films-enjoyable films, and nice to get back into that universe, but just not quite as epic and moving as the original source material-and likely never will be.
     
  17. julianaray

    julianaray Jedi Youngling

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    I haven't seen the worst as well.
    Hopefully it will not be in future.