ST Do You Want to See the Dark Side of the Force Make a Comeback?

I do expect the Sith/Force-using villain to come up with something incredible though. Something different from Force Lighting.

 

I concur. I'd like Luke and the new hero to be the only force-sensitive characters in the ST. And the only ones with lightsabers. No more battlefields crowded with Jedi foot soldiers.

And I'd like the existence of Jedi and the Force to not even be common knowledge anymore. Just a legend nobody quite believes until they see it with their own eyes.

 

Exactly. My personal pet theory/wish; that a new jedi order and temple isn't built or established again until episode 9. Episode 7 starts off with just Luke and his apprentice. Or at most just a few Knights. And they're on the outside of things. It's not until saving the Galaxy and earning the trust again in Ep 9, that they are in the limelight again.

 

Force illusions is something I would really like to see. Or shifting in and out of shadows. Or healing hands. The EU has invented some nice powers that could be used in the ST.

 

The Light cannot exist without the Dark.

 

Seems pretty hard for Palps to wipe all knowledge of the Force and Jedi from the galaxy in a mere 20 years especially considering a large number of people would be alive to remember. That is of course assuming the Jedi were the only Force using game in town which they were not of course that could be changed by the Story Gro up. As for Rarity, its hard to be rare at any reasonable incidence rate when you got a population that is what in the Trillions at minimum. Still yeah sorry I need my Dark Side Force Users and light saber fights without that I might as well watch Star Trek or BSG.

 

I think it's a pretty safe assumption that this will be the case regardless if you want it or not.

The relative excess of lightsabers and force-use in the PT was a sign of the times, as was the minimal use in the OT.

 

I understand some of desire for a less is more approach. However, I think it's a tad misguided, although the intent is on point.

Basically, people want things to matter -- they want effects to affect them. But just because you have less effects does not make them more memorable. What makes effects/powers memorable is how well they work in conjunction with the story and characters.

If we care about the characters, whatever they do that matters will matter. If we care about the story, are wrapped up in it, then we are more likely to moved by the FX -- that is, if those FX are meaningful to the story. I think when we get bored is when we see a lot style and no substance.

But this means we might have lots of powers or FX and we might still be moved by them. It's more of a narrative and character issue than strictly about powers or FX alone.

 

Just don't have 5+ lightsaber duels in one movie. ROTS is awesome but I get lightsaber fatigue if I watch the whole movie.

 

I agree. But we should be careful of letting our reaction to the PT lead us to conclude Force powers are always tiring. Maybe the ST can find a nice middle ground between the PT and OT.

I definitely don't want less Force powers than ANH. The general audience reaction would likely be shock. And not in a good way, but in a This isn't SW way.

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purplerain

I can only see the second picture. And IMO, it's an example of excessive style working in a cool way. Why? There's something threatening about all those Sith; they produce an effect. So excess can affect us in a powerful way, but it affects us for story reasons usually.

 

The amount of Force Powers and whatever they do with the lightsabers does need to be more impressive than what was in ROTJ. Force powers and Lightsabers are awesome and needed but we will see. A lot of people love the Force and lightsaber stuff seen in the PT but I hope there is a natural progression from the OT to the ST. No full blown Jedi Order. Please!
A Jedi army and Sith Army waging war on each other? Bring it on.

 

I never I absolutely love it! If the it required in the story and done well then I am all good. Its like terminator how we got this simple (?) story with little aspects of what the future holds. Then by the second film the sotry is expanded, theres more special effects and then most of it good ole hardcore action porn

 

My favorite Trek moment is the Battle of Yavin and my favorite Trek characters are Han, Chewie, and the Stormtroopers.

 

What I would like to see is a bunch of new powers. And more personalized powers. It was really cool that Vader was the guy of force chokes and Palpatine was the guy of lightning. I dunno, it was kinda like a (how do you call it in english, dictonary says business card. It made these big Sith Lords feel unique and all the more special. If everyone feels and uses the force differently, than why should they all be able to learn exactly the same powers?

The idea to have Corran Horn suck at telekinesis was a pretty cool one.

Ps.: That picture has exactly zero effect on me

 

Darth_Pevra

"Calling card"

 

I agree Darth_Pevra

 

I noticed that early drafts of ROTJ mention that when dark side users die, they "become one with the dark side". Could the dark side be the combined essence of all the Sith Lords who have existed over the years?

 

That is an interesting question. I'm not sure how to answer that except to say I don't think it's quite as simple as that. Not disagree, I just think there's more to it then that.

 

GL seems to have long believed that the Sith began with a single rogue Jedi, whether it's Darklighter, Xendor, or Ruin. What I'd love to know is: What made this one Jedi fall?

 

9 minutes might be cool though.

 

Of course I do,

The Dark Side of the Force is a path-way to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

We need the Dark Side to thrive for Star Wars to stay alive

 

I'm curious.... what are the actual odds of falling to the Dark Side? In the PT we discover there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of Jedi. We learn in ANH that they were 'The Guardians of Peace for a Thousand Generations'. This has been usually interpreted as being around 25,000 years. It is reasonable to assume that over that entire time frame there were many millions of Jedi.

Now I may have this wrong, but I understand that during all that time, only twenty Jedi left the Order voluntarily. That would appear to be an infinitesimally small percentage of the historic total. Mind you, I would reasonably assume that others may have been expelled. If so, we don't know how many.

Not counting those trained as Sith from the outset, I'm interested on the odds of 'switching sides' so to speak. Perhaps the odds increase when the Force is out of balance hence Anakin and Dooku both becoming Sith in short order, I dunno...

In the EU it happens a lot; too easily for my liking in most cases. In that respects, if we are to see Dark Force users in the ST, I sincerely hope that it isn't another 'Falling to the Dark Side' story; I would probably have more than a passing 'been there, done that' feeling. I've said on more than one occasion that if anything, I'd like to see the reverse happen and a baddie come good in these movies. I'll accept their presence in the ST if it makes for a great story, but it wouldn't be my first choice for the sequels.