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Amph [Doctor Who] Series 7 Discussion - SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Community' started by Mar17swgirl, May 29, 2009.

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  1. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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  2. Darth Guy

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    I'm not sure I understand what's upsetting about his comments...
     
  3. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    The "It'd be great" bit.

    EDIT: And given the discussion about his career that we had not so long ago (was it here or in the Hobbit thread?), this would seem like another nail in the coffin, if it were to happen, I'm afraid...
     
  4. Everton

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    I agree with Maria on this issue. On the plus side, it did sound like he actually nearly let something slip re: Doctor Who.
     
  5. darthcaedus1138

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    I don't see how making what would amount to at the most would be a cameo in an enormously successful franchise would be the nail in anyone's career coffin.
     
  6. Everton

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    Another nail. Not the nail. Coffins need many nails.

    It's just frustrating. He's going backwards. I know we discussed how it's not that straightforward, but he's too good for freakin' Star Wars.
     
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  8. Everton

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    Because he's a fantastic actor. An electric personality. He should be starring in great drama. He should be at the heart of something wonderful, something credible. Star Wars is none of those things.
     
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    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Because it's the bloody Star Wars and he's a Shakespearean actor who could do so much better.
     
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  10. Darth Guy

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    Yes, Shakespearean actors and sci-fi don't mix.
     
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    We're not discussing sci-fi in general, are we?
     
  12. Everton

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    The only example I can think of is Ian McDiarmid... and boy, what an artistic high point Palpatine was...
     
  13. Darth Guy

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    He's enthusiastic about the remote possibility of being in a beloved hit film franchise. So what? It wouldn't kill his career or whatever, and he clearly doesn't think it's below his vaunted status as someone who appeared in "Love and Monsters."
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  14. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Yes, but you seem to be forgetting one important point - both Ian McDiarmid and Patrick Stewart starred in sci-fi at a much later point in their careers when they were already established iconic names. David Tennant is a completely different case.
     
  15. Everton

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    Patrick Stewart has not appeared in Star Wars. We were discussing Star Wars being crap, not sci-fi being crap. Besides, Stewart's performance as Picard is quite excellent. All performances in Star Wars are either dreadful or a mockery of the actor's actual talent.
     
  16. Darth Guy

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    Patrick Stewart was probably a lot less well-known here in the States before he did TNG than David Tennant is, having only done stage and some minor film roles.

    EDIT: lol, I don't see how such a rabid fan of Doctor Who can despise Star Wars entirely. Oh well.
     
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  17. Everton

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    Don't forget - fan of "Love & Monsters".
     
  18. solojones

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    Yeah, for one thing I have absolutely no idea why you guys hate Star Wars so much. It baffles me as it does Evan.

    Setting that aside though, even if you don't like it, this is exactly the sort of thing David should be doing if he wants to have the chance to do more films, etc. which is what in that other discussion you both claimed to wish for. To me, his situation would seem to be exactly what Ewan's was before the PT. He was a well-known and respected actor in the UK already, but hadn't had exposure in the US that would allow him to be in a variety of other films. Since then, Ewan has had his pick. He's done big films, indie films, genre films, straight up drama.... anything. He's been able to do whatever the hell he wanted. Why on earth would someone not want that for David? I love you guys, but I'm sorry, I don't think you are quite understanding how this works in the business.

    Anyway, I think it's extremely unlikely that David would actually be in the ST, as much as I would love it. There are tons of actors who'd love to do it and I don't think he will land a spot unless for some reason some of the creative team really likes Doctor Who or something and happens to have a role for him. I know we don't see eye to eye on the ST possibilities at all, but set that aside. The bottom line is, if you think David should stop doing small movies and TV serials, you should pray to God that he has a chance to be in something like Star Wars.



    (I'm going to get to the question of which Doctor you're most like later because I want to hear people's responses and was thinking of asking that myself :p)
     
  19. Juliet316

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    Thirded on the bafflement train. A role in Star Wars, even a small one would be a hell of a step up in his career. Certainly better than *coughFrightNightcough*

    And yes, solojones nailed it on the head. Ewen managed to parlay a lot of his success in SW to a number of other roles since. TNG opened a lot of doors for Patrick Stewart, including X-Men and Hamlet with David. Why couldn't the same happen for David? And who says the ST will be crap? It's not like George is actually writing the scripts this time out.

    Plus he says he wants a role in it. For something like Star Wars, I would rather have somebody who actually wants to be in it than have somebody who's simply wanting a paycheck *casts long glares at Hugo Weaving and his recent Transformers comments*

    Although the fact that he *is* a more known actor due to LucasFilm due to Who and his voice work in the Clone Wars can't hurt his chances.
     
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    That's true. It's just that everyone wants in the film so I'm not going to get too excited about a theoretical dream cast.
     
  21. halibut

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    Tennant was a great Doctor, but you guys expect too much of him.
     
  22. Darth Guy

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    DAME MAGGIE SMITH AS EVERYONE
     
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    I cannot dispute the logic of Star Wars boosting David's profile in the US. It will, and that would open many doors. I just can't believe Star Wars is the only way to do that.

    EDIT: And to explain my own reason for disliking Star Wars. When a franchise loses me, I don't tend to go back. It takes a lot to shake me off, but the PT was so bad it did just that. Today, I'd rather just let it be. Leave it alone. At least then it can't get any worse, and what good stuff there is in the canon remains a larger part of the whole. A franchise extending into mediocrity is a terrible thing.
     
  24. solojones

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    So we shouldn't watch DW past Davison? :p
     
  25. Juliet316

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    Speaking of Who actors in other roles, I just watched the preview for next week's NCIS, and it looks like Alex Kingston's going to be playing a mystery woman tangling with Mark Harmon's Jethro Gibbs in the next episode.
     
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