PT Does anakin's chosen one prophecy make sense?

Does it matter?

The Jedi Purge, the Clone Wars, the return of the Sith and the Death Star.

Does it matter?

MACE: "If the prophecy is true..."

The Sith push the Force out of balance and the only way to restore the balance is to destroy the Sith. It is all there in the films. And the Sith weren't destroyed. They were there for one thousand years.

 

As ForcePushUp said, it's not there in TPM, which is the main criticism. The prophesy was mentioned in TPM, but it's meaning was not explained. The term balance is pretty vague, and can mean many things. It's not until six years later ROTS, where Obi-Wan mentions in passing, that Anakin is to destroy the Sith and bring balance, that this explanation is given, which seems pretty late in the game, given that Anakin had been the Chosen One all that time, without really knowing what that means. Even in ROTS the meaning of the prophesy is questioned by Yoda, adding more confusion to the point, that it had to be explained by Lucas in commentary.

 

Quite agree,

It is there to make the story seem more "Epic" and to make Anakin really "special" and to elevate him over Luke.

If Anakin had just been a very gifted kid and Qui-Gon believed he would make a great Jedi from who Anakin was as a person, not what he was. Then the film would work just as well if not more so and we would not need to waste time with a poorly explained prophecy.
And it would be more character driven, Qui-Gon has faith in Anakin the person, not Anakin the chosen one.

If the films had dealt with how Anakin dealt with the burden of being the chosen one or it affecting him in any way. Then it might have been good. But Anakin never talks about this.

Bye for now.
The Guarding Dark

 

I would like to add, that there's very little in the films to indicate that Anakin is the Chosen One. We're told that he is, but his abilities seem on par with most Jedi. All you can really infer from what's happening in the films is, that Anakin is a gifted if not too bright student. It's also strangely ironic, that being the Chosen One is directly linked to your power level, and not intelligence, good nature, and moral fortitude. It's seems an odd moral lesson to kids, that you can be a terrible person for most of your adult life, but still be the Chosen One, if you make one good decision at the end of your life. I would think Luke is much more worthy to carry the title of Chosen One, whereas Anakin should be regarded more as a false prophet (aka a high midichlorian count does not a good person make), but for Lucas making the saga Anakin centric seemed to trump other considerations...

 

OK, it's there to make the story more epic, Anakin special and above Luke. In that case, Lucas utterly failed. We haven't seen any indication that Anakin deals with his burden of being the Chosen one, he never talks about it. The story about the prophecy revolves around very sketchy details, about the balance, destroying the Sith and what the Jedi expected from Anakin, nothing more. Then, Anakin does seam like a good kid/teenager, but, as I see it, he does nothing that makes him better than Luke, nor does the prophecy that for him.
Has Lucas truly failed or was his intention for the prophecy to mean something else, something not that important to Anakin himself (or his character compared to Luke), but to the greater picture of the saga?

In the PT, yes. Had he destroyed the Sith in ROTS, there would be no OT.
In the saga, no. He destroys the Sith in the end.

What does the prophecy say about the abilities of the Chosen One? He should be able to fly and repair starships, read and control minds, fight with the lightsabers with no training at all?

How does Luke fit in the prophecy presented in the PT?

 

Which was an intentional choice on Lucas's part.

"The Midichlorians have brought Anakin into being as “the chosen one” who will balance the universe. The mystery around that theory is that we don’t know yet whether the chosen one is a good or a bad person. He is to bring balance to the Force; but at this point, we don’t know what side of the Force needs to be balanced out."

--George Lucas, Star Wars: The Making of Episode I, 1999.

Lucas's intent wasn't that he is the Chosen One simply because he can destroy the Sith in a straight up battle, though that was always a possibility. He's the Chosen One because he is the only one who will destroy the Sith, not through battle, but through his choices. He destroys the Sith because he chooses to become a good man again and save his son. And to save his son, he has to kill Palpatine. Being the Chosen One isn't about worthiness. Never was. That's a misconception. Anakin's Midichlorian count is a byproduct of how he was born, not the means to defeating the Sith in battle. That's why Lucas says that Luke cannot defeat Palpatine, because he's not fully trained for that kind of confrontation. But Vader is due to his knowing that the Sith betray each other due to the Rule of Two. He was planning to destroy Palpatine for years, but his motivations for doing so change. And in that change, he fulfills his destiny.

 

The prophecy tries to make the story more epic in that now it isn't just defeating a bad guy or some evil dictator. Now it is much bigger than this.
And now there is a, possibly ancient, prophecy about this special person.
That Anakin himself has nothing to say about this does not really matter.
The "epic" feel comes with bigger stakes and throwing in prophecies.

Take DUNE, you could have Paul just being someone that unties the Fremen and fights the evil Harkonnen and frees them and gets revenge for his father's death.
But you also have prophecies and promised messiahs and now the story is more epic.

It could have been used to add character to Anakin but wasn't. Which is a pity.
In both the Matrix and Harry Potter films, the burden of being the chosen one is seen on the main character.

It also elevates Anakin over Luke. Now the story is about balancing the Force and this can only be done by killing the sith and only Anakin can do this.
So Luke is now less important. He can't be the one who saves the day, no matter who he is or what he does.
Only Anakin can be the savior.
And Luke was quite gifted and strong in the Force, Anakin has him beat by being a Force demi-God.

Well given that Qui-Gon and the other Jedi connect Anakin super high mid count with the prophecy, then is seems likely that something was mentioned of the number of midis of the promised chosen one.
And given that midi count seems to be tied to a persons Force potential, Anakin, by having such a high count, could become the strongest Force user ever. Which Palpatine even says.
So the implication is that Anakin would be able to do what other Force users can not.
Or be much stronger than them.

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Well all we know is that it mentions bring balance and the Jedi thought that this meant "Kill the Sith" but they also think they might have gotten it wrong.
And in the OT this whole thing is never mentioned.

Lastly, if bring balance means kill all Sith.
Then doesn't that mean that Anakin HAS to kill them?
Even if they surrender, as long as they are alive, they unbalance the Force and so Anakin would have to kill them eventually.
So him murdering Dooku was just him fulfilling the prophecy.
He is there to kill Siths and so he does.
And if Anakin is the only one that can kill the sith, then even if Dooku and Palpatine go to trial and are sentenced to death, Anakin has to be the executor.

Bye for now.
Old Stoneface

 

I always thought it was a funny bit of irony that, in destroying his master, it can be argued that Anakin simultaneously fulfills his destiny as both a Jedi and as a Sith.

 

Lucas did a good job. First, the prophecy serves as a biblical metaphor of the one who'll bring good to Earth - destroy the Sith, the bad guys. As that went wrong, Anakin is a sort of an antichrist. So, Lucas toyed with the audience. Second, the prophecy served Qui-Gon to take Anakin as his apprentice. At the age of 9, he was too old. Why would they train him? There are potential Jedi everywhere! Third, it actually made the ROTJ ending more meaningful as Anakin actually destroyed all the Sith.

But the main point is very simple. Anakin is special because of his prophecy. Is that a cliche? Yes, it is. Luke is special because he's a new (and last) hope for Obi-Wan and Yoda to defeat the Emperor and Vader. Is that a cliche? Yes, of course. Rey is a girl who has amazing powers and can do whatever she wants, even to make Leia send her to Luke for no reason at all. Cliche? Oh, God, yes! So all the main heroes have something that others do not, that makes their trilogies theirs. Is Anakin's thing the only with a problem?

The prophecy doesn't elevate Anakin over Luke because the prophecy is Anakin's story, not Luke's. Luke actually helps his father to fulfill his destiny. Oh, and even without the PT and it's prophecy, Luke became a Jedi knight by confronting his father who then killed his master and died himself.

Luke destroyed the Death Star which brought him command over a group of rebels, he helped on Hoth, he saved Han and his friends on Tatooine and managed to bring out good in his father.
Luke's story in the PT-OT saga is still there, it's still equally important as it was in 1983.
I find your words very applicable on TFA. Luke is not important, the Rebels... Pardon, Resistance won without him, her sister sent some strange girl to him instead going herself, he left his friends and his possible apprentice shows some skills that are way beyond his skills at that age.

Seems likely, could become, would be able. Yes. Well, he could have achieved all that had he not been flawed and fell in that lava.

That's not really what I asked.

 

To me, Lucas didn't do a very good job in this regard.
I found the prophecy uninteresting, under developed and it took time away from other things that needed more time.
Anakin is already a moving force, plenty happens to him. He is a giften kid who is taken away from his mother at a sensitive age. He trains as a Jedi, gets caught up in a war. His father figure whispers in his eras how great he can become. He looses his mother under terrible circumstances and vows to not fail again. He falls in love but worries that his love might die the same way his mother did.
He is seduced by power and gives in to fear and hate. He turns against his friend and mentor and they fight to the death. And he looses and is badly burned and is now a shell of a man, locked inside a prison, consumed by hate.
You don't really need to add a prophecy here.

The biblical connection is rather weak as Jesus wasn't meant to kill the Devil.
Anakin is just there to kill a bad guy, not really "bring good". He isn't there to change the Jedi or bring enlightenment to the galaxy as a whole.
Plus, since we know that Siths have existed in the past, they even ruled the galaxy and the Jedi thought that they were wiped out. So did a "chosen one" kill the sith the last time?
If not, why would the Jedi think one was needed now when it wasn't needed in the past?

Of course some think that Anakin was there to wipe out BOTH the Sith and the Jedi, as the latter had lost their way. So both the old Jedi order and the sith were in some ways "wrong" and Anakin was there to make a clean slate and prepare for a new and better Jedi order.
The film doesn't say this of course but some think it.

And given that the OT already existed so the audience knew that Anakin would kill Palpatine in the end, it was no surprise. And the PT didn't really try to hide that Anakin was going down a dark path so his turn wasn't exactly a big shock.

Why would Anakin be trained?
Imagine if Obi-Wan comes across Anakin, who is very gifted but also Obi-Wan gets to know him, they become friends and feels he would make a great Jedi. He brings Anakin but the other Jedi have doubts and they are against it. But Obi-Wan persists and says he will train him even if they don't approve. He feels this strongly about it. So they submit and he trains him. This also gets around the issue why the most important Jedi alive didn't get the best possible training and was given to someone that he never trained anyone before.
But things go bad and Anakin turns. This would really be a gut punch to Obi-Wan, he was the one who wanted to train Anakin, over the objection of the other Jedi. And he failed. This is drama.
He wanted to train Anakin for WHO he was, not what. It was about Anakin the person, not Anakin the chosen one.

To me, the end of RotJ didn't improve in any way. What made it good was the personal drama that was going on. I wasn't interested in Anakin fulfilling some ancient prophecy or bringing harmony to the cosmos or whatever. It was about a son showing his father that he didn't have to remain a slave to his hate and a father, who saved the life of his son out of love for that son.

Plus, since a new sith would arise as soon as a Jedi turns, so what Anakin did wasn't anything much.
New Sith could come.

Since Rey's story isn't complete yet, I won't comment on it.

With Luke, what he had to do, the burden of it and all that. He talked about it, it informed his character, it mattered to him as a person. Anakin being the chosen one is something Anakin never talks about. Does it affect him in any way? Not that we see.

It is possible that him being told that he was a demi God and the chosen one, that this made him arrogant and felt that the rules didn't apply to him and that he could have the power over life and death. But was it? Unknown. Another thread talks about this but most seem to think that Anakin's arrogance comes from Palpatine whispering in his ear.

Neo was the One. But not only did that shape his character, the films also did something interesting by revealing that the whole thing was a lie, another system of control.
With Anakin, to me, it doesn't affect him as a character and nothing interesting is done with this.
Hence why I think it is a bit of a waste.

Lucas tried to make the overarching story about Anakin, his tragedy and his goal to kill the Sith.
Lucas talked several times about that SW was really "The tragedy of Darth Vader." and had always been that.
This downplays Luke, now his story is just a backdrop to the REAL story, Anakin.

The OT was made as Luke's story yes, but later Lucas tried to make it Anakin's story. That he was the main character, that it was about him all along. That the culmination of all that had happened was Anakin killing Palpatine. Luke helped sure, but Luke could never do what Anakin did. He wasn't special enough.

Luke became a Jedi because that is what he wanted to do, not because some prophecy told him.
When he found out the truth, he was determined to save his father, over the objections of his Jedi teachers. Again this is what he wanted to do, not what some prophecy said.

By making the death of Palpatine the most important event of all, I think it does make Luke and what he did less important.
Now all that matters is Anakin killing Palpatine, as long as he does not do that, evil will never loose.
So no matter what Luke and the rebels did, they could never kill Palpatine and thus they could never really bring balance.

As I said above, the ST trilogy is not yet complete so I won't judge it based on one film.
But since Luke wasn't some prophesied messiah or a Force demi God, and the OT showed that Luke alone can not win. Other people helped him. Lando and Wedge blew up the DS2, Leia killed Jabba, Han saved Luke more than once.
So Luke's story is him training to become a Jedi, facing trials and tests, over coming his own troubles and facing his own demons. Plus a big part of that is confronting his evil father and Luke tries to save him. But a lot happens around him, Luke didn't kill the emperor, he didn't blow up the second DS.
And, something that was said, Luke wasn't the ONLY hope. Other options existed.
Anakin was the ONLY one, no alternatives existed.

Again, the question was if the prophecy said something about Anakin's abilities and given what is said in the films, I think it likely.
And I know some people here have said that Anakin's super high mid count is the reason why he could kill Palpatine, no one else could have because their midi count is too low.
And to me, the whole "Power levels" thing wasn't really great.
"Palpatine is a level 10 Force users, Mace and Yoda are level 9, Anakin was level 11 but now he is level 8." Etc.
Yes the films don't say this but again, there has been a lot of talk here about that.

Also, Anakin didn't get put in the suit until the end of RotS. So prior to that, he had his full potential.
But he didn't really do anything much beyond the usual jedi stuff.
That Neo could do stuff others could not, that was made very clear in the first Matrix film.

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No but this thread is about if the chosen one prophecy makes sense and issues around it.
And IF Anakin was created by the Force, which the film implies. And he was created with the sole purpose to kill the Sith. Then is him doing what he was created to do wrong?
The Force is in some ways viewed as "God" in the SW galaxy. And Anakin was made by "God".
Anakin was fated to kill the Sith so him killing Dooku is just him following his destiny.
He was made to be a sith killer, so him doing what he was made to do isn't really unexpected.

Bye for now.
Blackboard Monitor

 

Is it weak?

Your words at the end of the post.
The most important thing about the prophecy is that the Chosen One will bring balance, not to kill the bad guy. And bringing balance to that God, his father, has some biblical connotations.

Actually, the Jedi believe the Sith were extinct - not destroyed by one of theirs.

I can't see this ever happening in Lucas' SW universe. No disrespect here, but it's too plain and simple. And very much like described in the OT. Why would I watch it then?

No, that's not what I meant.
Why Obi-Wan and Yoda waited for so long and why they decided to train only Luke? Obi-Wan and Yoda eventually joined the Force, Luke was the only one who was trained enough to confront Vader and Palpatine. They put all their hopes in a boy from Tatooine with no back-up plan? And yes, Luke talked about his confrontation with his father, but he never dealt with the issues of being the only one who can do that. Has he ever talked to his mentors and friends what to do if he, the last living Jedi and a hope for rebuilding the Order, dies?

Yes, he was. As I said, Obi-Wan and Yoda trained only him, of all the creatures from the galaxy, to face the dark side users. He was special.

Luke decided to become a Jedi because he lost everything on Tatooine, because Obi-Wan told him about his father and he needed his help. His original idea was to go to the Academy.

And? Only Luke could've turned Anakin back to the light side. No matter what the Rebels did.

I can't see any other option. Obi-Wan and Yoda never looked for another Jedi to train.

No. But in order to fulfill your potential, one must be dedicated to it. He clearly wasn't, as Lucas presented to us.

 

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No. But in order to fulfill your potential, one must be dedicated to it. He clearly wasn't, as Lucas presented to us.[/quote]

Seeking to become a more powerful Jedi (which Anakin does) can be seen as dedication to fulfilling your potential. Anakin's induction into the Jedi was prompted by the potential for him to be the strongest Jedi with the force. Stronger even than Yoda.

 

Having only watched the films, the Prophecy thing didn't make sense to me. Was it the reemergence of the Darkside that brought it about? Was it the dominance of the Jedi? It's only ever mentioned but never fleshed out a bit. It needed a scene with perhaps Obi Wan asking Yoda about the Prophecy. If the Force needs there to be no Darkside to attain a balanced state then I'm sorry, but that by definition that is not balance.

 

They did have a discussion about the prophecy, and said discussion was kept open for a purpose. If it was clear both to the characters and to the audience, it wouldn't make much sense at all. It needs to be vague to the characters, so that they can't be certain what is happening, while still being in a state of mind where they could be misled by it, and it needs to be somewhat vague for the audience, because else you already know what is happening.

Beyond that, there is more than one type of balance, the darkside isn't required for the force to be in balance. That being said, the balance isn't about there not being anyone using the darkside either. The movies mention everything that needs to be known. Palpatine is the reason the force is out of balance. The force reacts to his deeds, not to the existence of the Sith (they have been around, but in hiding for centuries). The Jedi don't matter either, as they act in accordance with the force. If they had something to do with the balance, the chosen one would have needed to appear much earlier. Palpatine twists the force in ways that aren't natural. He is shrouding it in darkness, leading to the Jedi seeing their ability to use the force diminish.

What you have is an extremely powerful force-user using the force in ways it isn't supposed to be used. And not just on a small scale like the Sith may have done while in hiding, no, he basically took over the entire galaxy and impacted everyone and everything connected to the force (again, see the shrouding in darkness bit). With the end of Palpatine, and thus also the end of the Sith, the force brought itself back into balance. That doesn't mean that there couldn't be more darksiders in the future, but again, the existence of darksiders isn't the same as the force moving out of balance. For the most part, darksiders probably aren't significant enough to make a difference.

Now, all of that is the George Lucas part of Star Wars. At this point it isn't clear if what the sequels bring to the franchise will live up to that. The bits and pieces from TFA and the teaser to TLJ don't quite sound like the people in charge know what the balance is supposed to be about either, then again, it is too early to truly judge this.

 

His dedication to being all powerful was due to his failure to stop someone that he loved from dying. It had nothing to do with expectations from the Jedi and everything to do with Palpatine's brainwashing him into thinking that he had to be all powerful. Before Shmi's death, Anakin thought that he was already all powerful and better than Yoda.

Yoda states that the shroud of the dark side has fallen, following the start of the Clone Wars. Who started the Clone Wars? The Sith. Obi-wan states that destroying the Sith will restore the balance and that is what happens in ROTJ.

 

Except that as a Sith it's a failure in that he had to sacrifice himself to achieve it and so it's a failure for a Sith but a victory for a Jedi whereas his choice to sacrifice everyone else for his goal to save Padme is a victory for a Sith but a failure for a Jedi.

Which is why that is not in the movies. Balance is not good only. Clearly evil exists and the Jedi battle against it. There was an entire Sith Order at one point and the Force was not out of balance in any way that lead to a Chosen One coming forth.

That is one of the perplexing things for the characters. The Sith are gone so why would there be a Chosen One now?

 

To me yes.
What Jesus was meant to do given the old prophecies was a lot more than "Kill the Devil."
He was an inspiration, preached tolerance and love.
He changed a lot of people.
All Anakin was there to do was to change the sith from being alive to being dead.
He wasn't supposed to teach anyone anything.

Except for the rather crucial detail that "Bringing Balance" MEANS "Kill the Bad Guy."
That is Anakin's job, he is there to kill the sith. And he is there because, God/The Force is too lazy to do it in person.
If "Bring Balance" had meant to teach the Jedi that they had become too dogmatic or about a new way to view the Force. Then there might have been more of a connection to connection to Jesus and the Bible.
As it is, he is just there to kill people.

Since the films NEVER explain what actually happened to the Sith when they were around the last time. How their empire fell, what the Jedi did etc.
All we get is the Jedi saying that they had been extinct for 1000 years and we have Maul saying that the sith would now get revenge on the Jedi.
From this, the most logical conclusion is that the Jedi were responsible for the Sith almost getting wiped out. Otherwise why would Maul want revenge?

And the issue remains, the Jedi thought that the Sith were wiped out 1000 years ago.
If a "chosen one" was not around back then, then why would they think it is needed now when it wasn't before?

You asked how Anakin would have been trained, I gave you an answer. You didn't ask if Lucas would do it this way.
And I am pretty sure that IF he had, you would have watched the film.
And at one point, the backstory he had in mind for Anakin was something like this.
The first draft of TPM had Obi-Wan in a much bigger role and Qui-Gon didn't show up until Coruscant.
Lucas changed his mind and did it a different way instead. Which is totally fine and he was not obligated to do it one way or another.
How each person feels about is their opinion.
I simply showed that doing it differently was very possible.

That they waited so long is a problem that the PT adds, it wasn't there in the OT.
At the end of the PT, Yoda says that the children should be hidden and they would wait until the time was right.
Them waiting a long time and them not considering Leia is totally on the PT.

The OT didn't establish that Jedi are trained from birth so Obi-Wan starting with Luke in his teens is not painted as odd. And given that ESB showed Vader and Palpatine sensing Luke growing stronger. IF he had started to train Luke at age five, Vader and Palpatine would likely have sensed it as well and come after him. And at that age, Luke would be no match.


They did have a backup plan, Leia. At least the PT showed that they were totally aware of her. Why they then ignored her in the OT is again the fault of the PT.
After ANH, BOTH hopes were in mortal danger and hunted by the empire. So why wait three years and why not bring Leia? That is pretty stupid but again, it mostly becomes that with the PT added.

And Luke DID talk with Leia about carrying on, that she was also strong in the Force.
And the burden of having to confront Vader.

Nope Leia was just as special.
And Luke was picked because he, and Leia, were the strongest potential Jedi that Yoda and Obi-Wan knew of. Even before birth, Obi-Wan knew that they would be strong due to the Force running strong in their family.

The PT adds another issue, given that Force potential can easily be tested. And if a mid count is always passed on. Then if any of the PT Jedi had a brother or sister that wasn't in the order, they would have a high count. Any person with a high count, whose parents declined the offer to give up their child. They too would have a high count.
So, given the PT, Yoda and Obi-Wan would have a lot of options.

With just the OT, it is quite possible that the Skywalker line was special in that the Force ran strong in the family. It need not be the case for other people.
So Yoda and Obi-Wan might not know of a lot of other people with strong potential.

Also it is possible that Luke and Leia were picked because of their connection to Anakin.
That Yoda and Obi-Wan might figure that them being his children would cause Anakin to hesitate or sow a seed of discord between him and Palpatine. That he would turn back? Probably not something they planned on.

It was still a choice he made as an adult. None of the PT Jedi made any choice to become Jedi as they were taken in when they were infants. And Anakin was only nine and did not hava a clear idea about what it meant.
And Luke also joined the rebels, a cause he was interested in and was in favor of.
And here he had a choice to go with Han and not die in what looked like a suicide attack.
Anakin didn't really choose to involve himself in the fight against the TF ship.

We don't know that. Leia might have been able to.
And nothing required Anakin to turn back to kill Palpatine.
If he killed Palpatine, as means to grab power, and died in the process, that would still count as Balancing the Force as the Sith would be dead.

Leia WAS an option, Yoda said so.
That he was so cool with her dying in ESB, well chalk that up to RotJ and that ret-con.

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Says who?
Anakin was certainly dedicated to getting power and he liked to brag about how powerful he was in both AotC and RotS.
He had a lot of trouble controlling his emotions and he paid for that at times.

But this comes down to SHOW, don't' TELL.
Saying that Anakin is really powerful or that he could be but not showing it. To me that is selling your film short.

Bye for now.
Blackboard Monitor

 

Snoke is not a Sith. Snoke uses the Darkside of the force, but has no lineage to the Sith. After reading Empire's End I believe Snoke is linked someway to the origin of the force. I guess we will find the truth in later films, books and comics.


My interpretation of Plageus and Sidious experiments trying to create life from the Midi-Clorians, is they went against the Force's will and the force created Anakin. The interpretation of the Chosen One is what you believe, the Jedi weren't officially sure. You could say Anakin and Vader brought balance by wiping out both Oders, but I think Anakin's son Luke will leave legacy of true balance. My theory is yet to be laid out or proven, but I believe bringing balance to the force is left to our own interpretation.

 

TPM offers us some clues. Maul says: At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge. So it's obvious that they're hiding themselves and want revenge for something. In the Council the Jedi say this: The Sith have been extinct for a millennium, and: I do not believe they could have returned without us knowing. Nothing indicates that the Jedi wiped them out. ROTS adds this: Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy. They ruled, now they don't, but there are the Jedi - so the Jedi ended their rule and the Sith went into hiding. The Chosen One? No need, they weren't destroyed.

The plot required Luke to be the hero and it's a plot hole created with ROTJ making Leia Luke's sister. Obi-Wan admits he knows the truth so not training Leia is purely on OT. And waiting them so long may actually be justified by their words in ROTS. But with the OT in mind, as that time was the time Luke started his training, makes Luke special.

As I said above, Obi-Wan knew Luke and Leia were siblings in ROTJ. And even then, in ROTJ, after the decision to make Leia Luke's sister, they decided not to train her, not to take her into consideration in case Luke fails or turns to the dark side, and that was the case in the ST also.

Well, there you go. Anakin was special, created by the Force, predestined to bring the balance to the Force and to bring an end to the Sith, and Luke was special because he's the son of Anakin, the Force runs strong in his family and was chosen to be trained as a Jedi, while his sister, with equal potential, was not, even in TFA. To me, that makes Luke even more special because, unlike Anakin, Yoda and Obi-Wan had a choice.

No, he hasn't. All Yoda said was: No, there is another.

 

^^ Another hope. If she wasn't an option then there wouldn't be much to hope for.

 

This is actually justified by the films. The moment Luke starts entering into serious Jedi training with Yoda, the Emperor senses a disturbance in the Force and realizes what's going on, setting into motion plans to either convert or kill Luke. It's clear that when a being as powerful as Luke starts tapping into the Force in a serious way, it sends unavoidable ripples through the universe which the Emperor can detect. This is why Ben waited so long to start training Luke; he had to wait until the right time, only when it became absolutely necessary and Luke was old enough to be able to take care of himself. It also explains why they don't start immediately training Leia: She's the back-up. If Luke fails, they'll start training Leia. But if they started training her at the same time as Luke, then the Emperor would be alerted to her existence as well, which would defeat the purpose.

 

Leia was a bigger risk as she was raised to be a Queen. She was more likely to fall to the Darkside, she had a temper, strong willed, wanted things her way, she's more like her father and who's to say she wanted to be a Jedi. Leia didn't train to be a Jedi after ROTJ, seems like she might have not wanted to be a Jedi.

 

Luke also had a temper, was strong willed and wanted things his way. The difference between them was that Leia was more serious minded and disciplined than Luke, who was too busy dreaming of excitement and adventure. Being raised to be a senator and possibly take over as Queen, was not an issue. As to becoming a Jedi afterwards, we don't know why exactly she chose not to. She might have been more receptive if Luke had failed. But since he succeeded, she saw no need to become a Jedi.

 

It explains it in books, I think it was the first Aftermath or Bloodlines, she stated she thinks she's more needed in helping the New Republic get started. Leia had trouble listening to Hahn on his own ship, do you really think a Princess would be in a swamp listening to Yoda barking instructions. She didn't even want to get her hands dirty when Hahn tried to touch in in ESB. While Luke was dreaming of adventures she already had been on many thrill seeking adventures. Who is to say they both had the same force potential, genetics can go either way. If you really analyze the OT Luke is the obvious reason, without him no balance would have been brought to the force. Leia hated Vader for torturing her and destroying her planet, making it easier to bring the Darkside into her.

 

It's very clearly implied by ROTJ that Leia is destined to be a Jedi just as Luke is. She's to be the first of the new generation of Jedi trained under Luke. TFA, and the EU to a large extent as well, really dropped by the ball by abandoning this plot thread for no good reason.