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Discussion Does anyone have ideas for Episode VII that don't undermine the previous films?

Discussion in 'Archive: Disney Era Films' started by El Jedi Colombiano, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Without any training? I don't follow.
     
  2. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    You have a point, but at the same time the films say the Sith would not return. That doesn't mean that one of Luke's students can't fall to the dark side and turn into an Izan, or whatever dark side monastic order they come up with.
     
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  3. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Does it? I missed that somehow. When does it say that?
     
  4. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    Crap. you got me their. the films don't say that. but the creator does.
     
  5. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    Actually, Mace Windu says that when he is about to kill Palpatine.
     
  6. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, but then he's immediately proven wrong. Hahaha!
     
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  7. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What if the ST is really, really good? I mean, like incredibly good? Would that over-shadow the OT or PT?
     
  8. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Same for a fallen Jedi without Sith training
    Thank you!
     
  9. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    He was probably referencing the prophecy.
     
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  10. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    Probably not. It would only add to it, I guess.
     
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  11. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Windu was just saying, "I'm not going to let you become any more powerful!"
     
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  12. EHT

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    Yeah, I interpreted it as coming more from Mace's own grim determination than anything else.
     
  13. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, but if they're a fully trained jedi they could start the order over from scratch. Sure they wouldn't have all of the knowledge Palpatine had, but neither did the Sith who started the order in the first place. They had to learn as they went by experimenting with the darkside.
     
  14. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    It would be nice to see the Nightsisters as villains I guess. and maybe see new bounty hunters and possibly Black Sun.
     
  15. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Even if they called themselves Sith, they wouldn't truly be Sith. If I call a lightbulb a table, is the lightbulb now a table?
     
  16. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    Also if the Rebels ended up divided, who would you think would lead each side?
     
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  17. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Maybe to some it will, but if you mean historically then nothing can undo the impact the original film had. That ship has sailed (or jumped into hyperspace).
     
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  18. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Saw and Mothma, perhaps.
     
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  19. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Would it make George look bad if a newcomer like JJ walks in and surpasses George's "vision" and takes it a step further? I think the OT is safe from most criticisms, but what if the ST blows the doors off the PT? Would people think less of GL?
     
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  20. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    If the fans are loud enough.
     
  21. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    How would it blow the doors? In my opinion the PT was just as great as the OT.
     
  22. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    You can have Dark Jedi without having Sith, the EU is full of them

    I think it's highly unlikely it will be considerably be better than the OT, originals are always best because they set the marker and created the franchise in the first place.
     
  23. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Chosen One star 6

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    No matter how loud the fans have been, it hasn't changed the minds of the people who like the PT. It won't change how they feel about the films, even if they are superior. And I also think that at this point, it's very difficult to surpass those films.
     
  24. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    same. All 6 movies together > all!
     
  25. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    1. I wasn't talking about people who have a strong opinion of the PT.
    2. Are you calling the PT "very difficult to surpass?"