Discussion Does anyone think Darth Vader will *not* be in Episode VII?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by MiamiJedi, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus

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    *raises hand*

    Outside the bubble we fans create for ourselves, the Emperor isn't really an iconic character the way Vader is.
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  2. Storybound Jedi Master

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    I don't think either the emperor or Vader will be in Episode VII. However, I do think that Force Ghost Anakin will be.
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  3. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    iconic: no (but neither is Maul)
    important: yes

    Anyway, I guess Anakin could return and pretend to still be Vader. And who knows what Palps learned from Plagueis?
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  4. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    In spite of the company changing hands, I certainly would hope that the ST would not invalidate one of the biggest points of the OT.
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  5. Jedirush2112 Jedi Grand Master

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    The only way Darth Vader will make an appearance would be in a nightmare or flashback.

    I-)
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  6. The Hellhammer 7SA Forum Interrogator

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    That may have been true before ROTS, but since that came out he's been referenced as often as Vader in popular culture, as far as I've noticed.
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  7. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Such as where?
  8. The Hellhammer 7SA Forum Interrogator

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    Cartoons, comedy shows, random articles of various topics not related to SW, I dunno man - you can't possibly expect me to offer you a full listing of times someone has somewhere mentioned Emperor Palpatine for the past 10 years.
    That's taking the "Source?!" scream waaay too far.
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  9. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    It's just that I've never noticed (besides when the Pope resigned).
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  10. The Hellhammer 7SA Forum Interrogator

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    Guess I just ran into it more, then :p
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  11. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    guess so
  12. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    The Emperor lost against Boba in the popularity contest. Boba badly lost against Vader. So he can't be all that popular. Some love the guy but many hate him too.
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  13. LittlestEwok Jedi Padawan

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    This is such a difficult question, because in what capacity may Anakin (Darth) return? As a presence, as a flashback, a memory, a voice, his legend (the Imperial March typically used for his entrance)? There are many ways he can figuratively return in the film, but I think that the SW franchise risks losing a lot of its gusto if it brings Darth back. They want the future films to make money, and keep all of the old fans while gaining new ones. To those who have never watched SW, it may seem as though Darth is the centre of it all - but he isn't, and it can thrive without him, with some good plot points, and a strong cast. So, to answer, I think that there will be a return of the mention of Anakin/Darth, but it would be silly to assume Darth would return. Perhaps the rise of a new 'villain' of the Sith, but definitely not Darth.
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  14. Jae-Dec Jedi Master

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    I can definitely see Anakin being in the movie, but not Vader or the Emperor unless it is in some type of flashback scenario.
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  15. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    If he returns, it will hopefully be in form of a hologramm or flashback or force vision.
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  16. I_Love_Scotch Jedi Grand Master

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    The only way I can see an actual Darth Vader in this movie is if Anakin is cloned, which...technically...he would be Anakin, not Vader, and definitely not in the suit. So...I guess the only way to realistically have Vader in this movie will be in a flashback or dream, or have Anakin turn to the darkside AGAIN...which would be extremely lame.

    Just forget about Darth Vader already. We Star Wars fans deserve a NEW iconic villain. Have Anakin come back as a Force ghost, or get sent back in the flesh by the Force itself to take down this new baddie.
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  17. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    We don't need to forget him. He'll be 100% in one of the spinoffs, probably even the first one.
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  18. Thefinalhack Jedi Master

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    Evil never ends. Just evolves
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  19. The Hellhammer 7SA Forum Interrogator

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    Yeah, if you're fighting the Zerg.
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  20. w4tkn Jedi Master

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    I do not think Vader will be in it, its too controversial to bring him back after his death meant for something. A force ghost yes very possible at the end of Ep IX. I think there is a strong possibility of a Sith Ghost Palpatine, he said he learned the secret to dying - a plot to seduce Anakin, that is likely but not a certainty, if they wrote that the Emperor did have that knowledge they can bring him back using some seeds planted in the PT and the conclusion to the OT that will go somewhat to connecting the NT to its ancestors which I cannot see a meaty way of doing it other than that. Rounding up the remaining Storm Troopers is weak, order 66 was 'beamed,texted, Skyped or emailed' to the Clone Troopers, surely there is a contingency to terminate that order without having to go find all of the troopers and kill them. Are the Storm Troopers cloned also? That's not a certainty, but perhaps the new animated show will show Storm Troopers and confirm they too are cloned just in a different uniform.
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  21. w4tkn Jedi Master

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    Definitely the first one for me, that's a certainty to make some money quick, deff don't do the first spin off on somebody new or lesser appeal, Disney wants their 4 Billion back quickly.

    An idea that just occurred to me, is what if the spin off's are connected? We could get Han and Leia in them and no the new trilogy at all. Perhaps they were murdered and Luke goes bad after all in the NT.
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  22. Krueger Force Ghost

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    I could see them throwing him in a vision or something. A bit like the cave scene in TESB.
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  23. DARTH_BELO Force Ghost

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    As I mentioned earlier on this thread a while back, I am betting that Darth Vader will not appear in episode VII-unless as a flashback or dream...

    what I am quite sure of, is that we will see Darth Vader will feature in a spinoff Film. I don't believe for one second that Disney wouldn't take every opportunity to capitalize big time on their new ownership of the most iconic villain of all time!!

    And if he did appear in a Spinoff I'd be perfectly fine with that!
  24. KED12345 Force Ghost

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    Rule out him being the main focus of a spinoff now that Star Wars Rebels is happening.
  25. man of steel Jedi Padawan

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    he will not be in the freaking movie if he was he will be a force ghost who is good