Saga Does Democracy work in a Galaxy Far, Far Away? So much squabbling!! They need someone wise!

Well, the Empire was getting things done. Deep down, some of them knew the Empire was better to a return where "royalty" dressed up as democracy would meander for decades only to be obliterated in a flash.

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Democracy.
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothin'

 

Jar Jar The Real Sith Lord LOL

 

Naboo. The greatest danger to democracy in the galaxy. Next time the Trade Federation invades, just look away and let them do their thing.

 

It's curious that Naboos decrees that their queens be kids. And that if you grow up, you are no longer the queen.
It looks like someone is behind the scenes and controls everything (I'm not talking about Sidious).
And Senators are teenagers (or at most twenty).

Senator as in old, at least Palpatine's age.

 

What the...?! From the separatists. And nobody is attacking. You don't need an attack in order to have a defense. You have a defense in case of an attack.

No, it's not. It's the whole point.

No, it's being rational. Being wary about what can happen and be ready for it in case it does.

Again with the strawman. Nobody is being denied anything.

 

No, the monarchy on Naboo is based on term limits. Padme's predecessor was older than she was, when she was elected. As she tells Anakin, she was not the youngest to serve. But she was so popular that at the end of her second term, the people wanted to change the constitution so that she could stay on for as long as she wanted. Padme declined in favor of maintaining the constitution. This is to show how different she is from Palpatine, who has the constitution of the Republic altered to stay in power indefinitely.

 

Isn't she the one who nominated Lord Sidious.

 

That's part of my point. The Naboo queens seem to be too young. Generally younger than the age of consent in RL. So what do they know of ruling an entire planet?

 

They serve in an apprentice legislative programs, which serves as an entry level for a field in politics and Padme was well respected for her work there, which lead to her being nominated. This was true of her successors.

 

It's not natural for children to be monarchs.

 

There is no problem as long as there is an adult regent, who knows what he/she is doing and willing to let the monarch rule when the monarch reaches maturity. ie adult.

I cannot stress enough that children does not know how to rule. anything. Their brains are not fully developed and not only that, but they simply does not have enough knowledge, attention spans. All sorts of problems. just look at history of child monarchs, how man of them even survived?

"But having kids as monarchs are soooo cool!"

Right, good luck

 

Kid monarchs are the best. Candy Sunday. Music Monday. Gaming Wednesday. Party Friday. Movie Saturday. Just a pure joy. And really appreciated after Shut Up Tuesday and Magic Show Thursday..

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And the purpose of the child morarchs is to maintain a certain dynastic succession. Not for any enlightened consitutional reasons.

 

Yeah, see my first sentence. About the regent.

 

And yet, we have a child in the Oval Office.

Governor Sio Bibble served as an adviser to Padme and her successors.

It worked out with Padme. She managed to run her planet for eight years and came up with the battle plan to liberate her people from an invading force. You also have to remember, this is a movie. Not real life.

 

The point being the Jedi and Republic Senate shares responsibility with letting evil in their ranks and eventually rise of the Emperor's and Snoke's regimes.

 

Yeah. I saw it.

 

True, though sometimes evil comes with a wholesome face. I refer to Palpatine, not Anakin.

 

It works because Frank Palpatine is the Senate. If you don't agree with this...it's treason then.

*screeching intensifies*

 

You are still misunderstanding and arguing over the same thing, I see.

The Republic did not have to attack the Separatists to keep them in the Republic. But they did. They dominated about half the galaxy who wanted to break-away through brute force. That's imperialism.


im·pe·ri·al·ism
/imˈpirēəˌlizəm/
noun noun: imperialism

• 1. a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force

As for the Naboo queens... at least in the old canon, Amidala was the first monarch with term limits and the first young queen in decades/centuries. Naboo was prosperous and peaceful, it shows how utopian the Naboo people were feeling. She was so popular after saving them from the Trade Federation that they continued to try to find other leaders like her.

 

No, they did not attack them to keep them in the Republic.

No, they fought the Separatists who were going to invade the Republic. Seriously, this is all in Attack of the Clones. It's not a matter of interpretation nor up to debate.

 

Right. Obi-wan reports to the Council and Palpatine that the Separatist Council are planning to attack the Republic with a massive Droid Army. So, yes, they're right to go to Geonosis and prevent that attack.

 

No, they aren't. They are trying to use it as a bargaining chip... "you can't tell us what to do, we can defend ourselves from you and the Jedi."


(if someone can find a YouTube clip of Anakin transmitting the message, that would be great)

And even if they were, that doesn't justify conquering and annexing their entire territory.

 

You're a fool if you think that the Droid Army wouldn't attack in order to prove their point. Remember that history is replete with armies being used to fight and not just for intimidation purposes. As to justifying the attack on them, it is one because if someone is going to go to war with you, the best thing to do is prevent that war from happening. History is replete with that as well.

 

No, they aren't. Pay attention to what's said:

"Our friends of the Trade Federation have pledged their support, and when their battle droids are combined with yours, we shall have an army greater than any in the galaxy. The Jedi will be overwhelmed. The Republic will agree to any demands we make."

They intend to attack and blackmail.

Who did any of that?