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Does the administration have the right to look at your password?

Discussion in 'Communications' started by AlienAcid, Jun 28, 2002.

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  1. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    If you are a VIP, Mod ECT ECT does the head admin (vertical, commander Antilles and Nathan) have the right to go in and see if your password is hard enough?

    And who says they stop at VIP's and Mods?

    Should they be allowed to do this? Or even go read a trouble members PM, who might be saying bad things about them or the boards? And if there was a complaint is it justified?

    Just looking for some answers here, when is an administrator allowed to log in as you to see your password and PM's? Where do they draw the line at privacy

    Edit: Okay, we have the answer. If anything needs to be added, PM me.
     
  2. SoloCommand

    SoloCommand Manager Emeritus & GTA Coruscant Developer star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Depends how many dead people you know...

    If you get me.
     
  3. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    True, on the matter of faking death and harrasment I can see a use for it, other then that though can it be justified?
     
  4. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    have the right to go in and see if your password is hard enough?

    See if your password is hard enough?
     
  5. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    Yes, So it wouldnt be able to be hacked.
     
  6. Hama

    Hama Retired GSA, Retired RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We don't log in as you unless you give us permission, and then only long enough to solve whatever problem you're having (i.e., someone sending you harassing PM's, etc.).

    And unless you're in a private board, such as the Mod Squad or Advisory Council, we don't care how hard your password is to guess.
     
  7. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That would be subjective in all but the most obvious of cases.
     
  8. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't see why this is an issue, unless there has been some instance that I am unaware of in which an admin has abused this privledge.


    I had no problems with Vert checking to make sure that my password was to the requirements needed. Actually, I never even gave it a second thought...



    :cool: Mace Windy,
    gandolf the gray, meet mace windy the purple!
     
  9. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I was unaware of any such requirements. What are they?
     
  10. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    We don't log in as you unless you give us permission, and then only long enough to solve whatever problem you're having (i.e., someone sending you harassing PM's, etc.).

    okay that I understand

    I had no problems with Vert checking to make sure that my password was to the requirements needed. Actually, I never even gave it a second thought...

    This I do not understand.. other then not using words in a password you make it no more secure then another.
     
  11. Gandalf the Grey

    Gandalf the Grey Jedi Knight star 6

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    The Jedi Council Administration has the right but not the obligation to monitor and/or moderate the Forums, and offers no assurances in this regard.
    -[link=http://boards.theforce.net/tos.asp]The Terms of Service[/link]

    I can guarantee that we Moderators get our passwords checked more than any other group on the boards, and I don?t have a problem with it.

    It?s a tool that I believe that someone needs to have. Only by being able to see passwords are Administrators able to verify PM?s when someone claims that they?re being flamed via PM, and it is useful for Administrators to be able to edit out offensive signatures.

    It?s an ability that only a very small number of users have, and those that do have it have proven themselves very responsible in the past.

    Note: Nice colors, Windy ;)
     
  12. Hama

    Hama Retired GSA, Retired RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Bad example of a password: starwars

    Good example of a password: fgh34op90

    [link=http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dtkinney/sounds/12345.wav]An accompanying sound file[/link] for this situation.
     
  13. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    AA let me get this right.

    You're angry about this for no other reason then because an admin might look at a mods password to make sure it wasn't easily guessable?


    You must be really desperate.
     
  14. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    Who said I was angry?

    And desperate for what?

    Please clarify :)
     
  15. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    I can guarantee that we Moderators get our passwords checked more than any other group on the boards, and I don?t have a problem with it.

    That I understand. I dont see why you need to though when you have your user password and moderator password though.
     
  16. SaberSlinger

    SaberSlinger Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What's with all the paranoia over security lately?


    [hl=gray]o]||||{[/hl][hl=blue] -------SaberSlinger------- [/hl]
     
  17. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It isn't lately, its been that way for a few months now. Every couple of months the mods have to change their passwords, and it has to be something difficult to crack. One of the Admins chooses when and gives us 48 hours or so to do it.
     
  18. Gandalf the Grey

    Gandalf the Grey Jedi Knight star 6

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    This paranoia is all in response to a nasty bit of business involving one ?DarthPsychotic.? We Moderators now have to change our log-in passwords on a regular basis, to keep down the likelihood that our passwords will be cracked. Also, all new Moderators are now required to take DNA testing to prove that they are not DP.

    To log in, we need our regular passwords, like everyone else. To use our powers, we need an admin password. This is so that even if someone does get our regular password, they can?t start wrecking boards through anything other than spam and trolling without the ?One Post Per Minute? errors.
     
  19. merlin

    merlin Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    [color=663300]It's their board, they can do what they want with users using the board. It's my choice to post here or not. [/color]
     
  20. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    It's their board, they can do what they want with users using the board. It's my choice to post here or not.

    I agree, and this forum here is to bring up questions like this though.

    And Gandolf, DP isnt bad, you just gotta get to know him.
     
  21. Padme Bra

    Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, he's a prince. What, does he give you porn or something?
     
  22. AlienAcid

    AlienAcid Jedi Knight star 6

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    What the hell do I need porn?

    Anyways I am bored with this now i got a decent answer out of DDH and Gandolf, how about we reopen the forceboat?

     
  23. weezer

    weezer Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Bad example of a password: starwars

    Good example of a password: fgh34op90


    Yes now we know Hama's password. Unless it is starwars and he is just tring to throw us off [face_mischief]

    :p
     
  24. Humble extra

    Humble extra Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Jun 12, 1999
    forget hacking passwords, and message boards what we need is suspiciously cheap software and entertainment

    Help us DP, you are our only hope
     
  25. Dan

    Dan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    What we need is a forceboat. Nowish!
     
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