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Doesn't Dooku know Palpatine's plans?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Super_Battle_Droid, Nov 25, 2008.

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  1. Super_Battle_Droid

    Super_Battle_Droid Jedi Master star 5

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    In the movie he seemed like he didn't near the end while talking to Sidious in his ship.

     
  2. CloneCaptainRex

    CloneCaptainRex Jedi Master star 4

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    Essential this series will stomp all over the books, just like the CW movie stomped all over RotJ, and TFU stomped all over... well, 94% of canon SW EU and 5 of the films.

    In the RotS novel(and other places) it was made clear that Dooks knew about Palp's plans except for the fact taht palp wanted Dooku dead.

    This show is for kids, and is 22 minutes long, it would take far too long to explain the above, so the default is PALP CONTROLS EVERYTHING (think TFU) AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS NOTHING.
     
  3. Obi-Mcfly

    Obi-Mcfly Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It's hard to get from the movies, because hint more thna tell you, but, yes, Dooku is fully aware of Palpatine's true plan, well, except for the part about replacing Dooku with Anakin.

    How did the CW movie stomp all over RotJ.
     
  4. CloneCaptainRex

    CloneCaptainRex Jedi Master star 4

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  5. Obi-Mcfly

    Obi-Mcfly Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Gonna need a little more than that.
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Dooku knows about some of Palpatine's plans, that's for certain. The ROTS novelization makes it pretty clear Dooku was simply mislead into believing he would head a new (Dark) Jedi Order forged out of the ashes of the original. He didn't know Palpatine simply meant to repalce him with Anakin.

    And TCW series is not stomping all over the books, btw. And, yeah, I don't see how Jabba's presence in the movie stomps over ROTJ, either.
     
  7. MvG-88

    MvG-88 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You are overreacting a bit ^^ The movie (godawful as it was) did not stomp over RotS, though it may have created a few continuty errors.

    Anyways, judging from the third last scene in AotC Dooku knows very well what Palpy is planning ("I have good news for you my master, the war has begun" or something like that). Plus he hired Jango as host for the clones.
     
  8. CloneCaptainRex

    CloneCaptainRex Jedi Master star 4

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    It stomped on the Jedi and Sith's established use of the force.

    For example; Obi-Wan could not sense Tryanus standing 12 feet from him as he takes off from Tatooine.

    Also, Dooku couldn't sense that Rotta was not in Annie's backpack. And Annie couldn't sense Ahsoka in danger, etc. etc.

    The Jedi didn't use telekenisis when it could've saved their hides.

    And I said it stomped on RotJ, not RotS.

    But, really, it stomped allll over TPM more than RotJ.
     
  9. Obi-Mcfly

    Obi-Mcfly Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You're not giving us any evidence for how it "stomped" all over TPM and RotJ though, you're just syaing it did.
     
  10. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Just like Tyranus couldn't sense Obi-Wan in AOTC.
     
  11. CloneCaptainRex

    CloneCaptainRex Jedi Master star 4

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    People are willing to forgive a slip-up like that.
    That was once in the whole prequels.
    CW did it at least 4 times in an hour.

    That's different, wouldn't you say?

    It stomped on TPM because Anakin was more than happy to help Jabba, even though Jabba was involved with his slavery.
    His only complaint was "I hate Hutts.".
    [face_thinking]
     
  12. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Jabba had nothing to do with his slavery; Anakin and Shmi were originally owned by Gardulla the Hutt, a rival of Jabba's. I don't see any "stomping".
     
  13. Evil_Billaba

    Evil_Billaba Jedi Master star 1

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    exactly...I would also like details as to how it stomped.
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Exactly- Dave even mentions this on the DVD comentary- that lines like "I hate Hutts" and his attitude towards Rotta stems from his past with Gardulla.
     
  15. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    Not really.

    None of the Jedi sense Yoda and the Clones coming.

    Dooku doesn't seem to sense all the Jedi in the arena, or Mace sneaking up on him.


    The Force isn't some sort of proximity alert, and it's not always right. None of the Jedi sensed that Palpatine was a Sith or that Dooku was making regular trips to Coruscant either.
     
  16. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost star 4

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    It was established in AOTC that the abilities of the Jedi are being clouded by the Sith, not making them able to sense their presence to full extent.

     
  17. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    But we have examples of a Sith not sensing Jedi.
     
  18. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost star 4

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    In case of the scene in front of Jabba's Palace it makes sense Dooku didn't (perhaps intentionally) react to Obi Wan's presence simply because that would have ruined Sidious master plan- blaming the Jedi/ The Republic for taking Rotta The Hutt their hostage. Had he attack Kenobi or dropped his guard the Jedi would have figured out what was going on.
    So he just kept a low profile and looked the other way. He probably figured they'll meet again someday.
     
  19. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost star 4

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    In case of the scene in front of Jabba's Palace it makes sense Dooku didn't (perhaps intentionally) react to Obi Wan's presence simply because that would have ruined Sidious master plan- blaming the Jedi/ The Republic for taking Rotta The Hutt their hostage. Had he attack Kenobi or dropped his guard the Jedi would have figured out what was going on.
    So he just kept a low profile and looked the other way. He probably figured they'll meet again someday.
     
  20. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost star 4

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    In case of the scene in front of Jabba's Palace it makes sense Dooku didn't (perhaps intentionally) react to Obi Wan's presence simply because that would have ruined Sidious master plan- blaming the Jedi/ The Republic for taking Rotta The Hutt their hostage. Had he attack Kenobi or dropped his guard the Jedi would have figured out what was going on.
    So he just kept a low profile and looked the other way. He probably figured they'll meet again someday.
     
  21. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    I was talking about AOTC. The movies in general imply that sensing through the Force is not so cut-and-dried as some might expect.
     
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