ST Domhnall Gleeson (General Hux) in Episode IX

Pretty sure Kylo would see that coming, kind of like how he knew Poe was about to fire on him.

 

In TLJ Hux seemed more like Basil Fawlty about to hit his car with a branch.

He was made out to be an incompetent buffoon.

If he had been a commander in the Empire he would have gone the same way as Ozzil and Needa.

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They reduced super Nazi to Colonel Klink in this movie.

 

I just hope that he and Kylo manage to see a marriage counselor at some point. Running an organisation like the First Order can put a huge strain on relationships.

 

If Kylo were at all smart, he would kill Hux 3 minutes after TLJ ends.

And it would be funny, and almost be expected if EP 9 sees the FO rise up against Kylo. They may have been seduced by Snoke, or Palpatine Fanatics, by I don't think they're going to revere Kylo quite the same way.

 

Everybody expects Hux to be killed in Ep. 9 but I think it could be cool if he escapes. Furthermore after seeing him played for laughs, (which I enjoyed) it could be cool to see them bring the character back later down the road reinvented as a darker character whose grown more bitter, twisted and angry with time.

Also he wouldn't be part of the First Order or anything resembling the First Order/Empire. He'd be part of some sort of ragtag group of criminals. I think it would be cool if the uptight Hux with the spotless uniform and perfectly combed hair was seen in later movies looking more ragged and disheveled.

 

Hux will not make it out of 9. I am sure of it.

 

Let's consider that Hux is no idiot. He killed his dad and made it look like an accident to get himself higher up the ladder. He had plans on killing Ben as early as TFA, and seems to think he's useless over all. While Ben can force choke him, Hux still has the whole of the units on his side over all, since most of the men either are afraid of Kylo, or they don't really trust him. There is Phasma too in all this, and both were making deals about what to do with Snoke and Kylo.

My guess, if Snoke didn't take him over, which I think could be an option here since he did say he has potential, is that Hux will stage a coupe, and dethrone Ben. Once done he'll have every plan on killing him forcing the Resistance to either 1. Save Ben, or 2. Allow him to come join them since he would know how they work. (Think Zuko I guess). This would put Hux in charge of everything and maybe in control of something that could wreck the whole galaxy.

If Snoke has taken over him, he could use his powers to pretty much screw over Ben, and be like "I wanted your body from you, and you screwed that up, so I'll just take this one instead" and use Hux as his Avatar if he so desires.

 

This lines bothers me because, yes, he has always been a sniveling weasel in both movies, and Snoke makes it plain that he likes him like that. That's the character.

But he is a weasel that is capable of great awfulness. He can blow up planets.

I can see a movie starting with Hux comedically toadying up to Kylo, but when the moment is right, coldly putting a blaster to a pilots head and taking off to leave Kylo stranded on an uninhabited planet.

 

Ehh, I don't know he seemed headstrong and blunt in TFA as well. Nothing particularly brilliant about his strategy - just brute and unintelligent force.

 

I think you're giving Hux way too much credit in TFA. He's clearly already gloating about the end of both the Republic and the Resistence before either are actually destroyed, and then he fails to effectively defend his base and it's destroyed by X-Wings. I certainly see no inconsistency between him in TLJ and TFA. His only mistake, which is possibly a plot hole, is not cutting off the Resistence while they are escaping. The reason he didn't use fighters was clearly explained - he couldn't cover them. But he makes just as many strategic errors in TFA, leaving the base apparently undefended by any major capital ships and apparently unable to stop the Millenium Falcon leaving Jakku.

 

Again, I don't think he is Tarkin in TFA in that I don't see him as having the autonomy, competence or authority of Tarkin. He, to me, always seemed like a Piett or Ozzel - bluster, arrogant and thinly veiled incompetence.

Again, I think you're giving Hux too much credit in TFA. He's defending a battlestation and leading an organisation that has direct connections to an Empire who lost two similar stations to fatal weaknesses - experience would suggest that you take extra precautions. Station battlecruisers directly above that oscillator and defend it excessively. He's overconfident - just like in TLJ. Regarding Jakku - there wan't even a battlecruiser to run away from as in ANH.

I generally agree that the Space-chase could have been given a few extra explanations as to why the FO couldn't cut off the Resistance. But Hux's overconfidence and wanting to let the Resistance die slowly isn't necessarily out-of-character for his TFA self. He's overconfident, and rightly so - there is no reason they would suspect the hyperspace ram, or that they would attempt the suicide-run in the shuttles. And even if they should have it's no more overconfident than we see Imperials in the OT, or Hux declaring the Republic and Resistence dead, when they clearly are far from it.

It sounds like you wanted Hux to be Tarkin in TLJ, and I agree with you, but it's not inconsistent with TFA, which I don't think planted him solidly in either camp (Tarkin, or Piett).

 

I never saw Hux as Tarkin like in TFA or TLJ. Far from it actually. Tarkin was an experienced and competent officer. Hux not so much. I think the point of Hux’s character and the FO — which was established in TFA — is that they are an imitation of the Empire, full of young zealot officers like Hux, with no practical tactical or battle experience, almost like children playing dress up.

He may have been physically beat up more in TLJ and been used in a comedic way, but he was still not out of character from who he was in TFA. His SKB speech in TFA was ridiculously over the top and played rather comedically. He and Kylo (another character who was portrayed as playing dress up as Vader ) acted like squabbling siblings in front of Snoke and Hux was portrayed as a coward during the battle of SKB when he took off to get orders from Snoke and did not even address the other officers who thought he had just left.

Perhaps he will be a bit more serious and efficient in Ep. 9 since there will be a time lapse, but I would not have expected him to change that drastically from TFA to TLJ.

 

They made a complete joke out of Hux from the get-go. Only compounded in patheticness in TLJ.

I dunno what alternate universe Star Wars movies JJ and Rian used to watch but the Imperial officers were never SUCH buffoons.
The old Imperial officers at least had an air of serious and threat about them, even when Vader was choking them it wasn't played for laughs - and it was portrayed with the appropriate gravity by the actors.

Captain Kanady got it right. And Ade Edmondson, despite havin to deal with the 'tooling us' line.

But poor Domhnall had no chance with the way his character was written. Which is a shame, as I'm sure he can do better.

That said, I still hold out hope that the cowardly Hux defects to the Resistance and double crosses Kylo. I want to see Hux's smarmy face as Kylo is killed, only moments before he too is vaporised or something.

 

It seems Abrams intentionally started that portrayal of the FO in TFA to contrast it with the old Empire and to show the FO is NOT the Empire yet (if they will ever be). Johnson continued with that portrayal in TLJ. I do not think they were supposed to be seen as baboons, but rather, less experienced and efficient than the Empire. I get what tptb are trying to do even if I am not 100% keen on how the FO has been portrayed. I am sure the FO will “grow up” some in Ep. 9, either becoming more like the Empire or something new or a little different.

Captain Canada was an experienced Imperial officer and a remnant of the old Empire so it made sense he would have little respect or desire to take orders from someone like Hux.

 

Yeah, I know. But, like you said, was that really a great idea to have such an ineffectual-seeming group of bad guys as our galactic threat?
I never once took them seriously in TFA, apart from Kylo at the very beginning. And then once he started going on his emo hissy fits that was the end of his aura of power. Phasma, don't even talk to me. The only one left was Snoke and he DID seem genuinely threatening but now he's dead in a silly way with all his dignity removed thanks to a close up of his tongue hanging out of his dead mouth like a chump.
And given that Rey is.....dare I say it...seemingly quite capable at many things ...there doesn't seem like much of a menace. Especially now after TLJ, the FO is in tatters, humiliated, their best officers dead, leader gone and new leader is an unstable man-child. Time for the Unknown Regions threat I think!

 

I've found that I don't care about Hux anymore, they made him into a symbolic prat fall, the only thing missing after that stupid prank call thing was Hux looking at the camera with a sad look on his face while we hear the old "Waaa Waaa whaaaa:" sound effect.

Personally, he should in the first minute stand up to Ren and say "My great Uncle Ozzel warned me about Force Users like you in his video Diary, I mwark" followed by a snapping sound. Then Ren turns to the camera and does a soft shoe dance and for the first time we get an actual laugh track in a Star Wars movie.

 

I agree with this. I absolutely love DG as an actor and I cringe just thinking about this role for him after TLJ. I'm mainly just hoping the character regains some dignity in IX or he dies early. Hux is barely a footnote in his resume in my mind. I'll remember him for everything but SW.

 

It's that TFA Hux is smarter than TLJ Hux. I didn't see Hux as like Tarkin either and he is clearly given to zeal and dramatics.

I still think it's that space chase (which makes little sense) + using Hux as comic relief => impression that Hux is ridiculously incompetent.

It's possible that the story wants to make the villains jokes, though to me that makes the feats achieved by the heroes less impressive.

One reason I like the battle at the end of ANH and the one at the end of RO is the heroes have a problem to solve. The solution has high costs because this isn't easy. And so that I suppose engages more of my brain as the part of it that likes problems gets involved. It also makes the victory more satisfying to watch.

 

I want the Hux we saw in Crait in the Bunker. That last shot of him is one of Hux with murder on the the brain.

I want that evil, blood-lusting monster.

 

I think Ep. IX is going to be Hux’s best movie. The drama between he and Kylo will be at its best. The tension between them will be at its highest.