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Donning the helmet-the symbolism and parallel?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by R2D1000, Dec 3, 2003.

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  1. R2D1000

    R2D1000 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In ANH, Obi-wan puts a helmet on to Luke, when he's training in the falcon asking him to "act on instinct".

    It is highly symbolic.

    In TPM, again, Qui-Gon puts the pod racer helmet onto Anakin, before the race starts asking him to "feel, not think".

    In a parallel to this what if, when Vader dons his helmet, even if by a droid
    Palpatine offers him some sort of advice,
    about using his hatred and anger?


    This would be a great parallel, reinforcing the symbolism in the saga.
     
  2. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That would kill Vader's character.

    I know Anakin is Vader but seeing Palps giving Vader, Vader in the suit, friendly advice on how to be evil would be bad for the saga. Darth Vader does what he wants. He knows how to use the force and he does not need to be treated like a child as Luke and little Anakin did. Vader can stand on his own. He is loyal to Palpatine because Palpatine treats him with respect unlike Obi-Wan.
     
  3. Blackthorpe

    Blackthorpe Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Feb 6, 2003
    Who says it would be friendly advice? It could easily be something like "Let your hatred flow through you," or something like that.
     
  4. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That would work but Palps has said it before.

    I guess the image of Palpatine acting like Ben and Vader acting like Luke came to my head.

    Palps: Use this your eyes decieve you.

    Vader: (whining) But How can I see with the mask. I want to go to the Toshi center with my friends. You never let me do anything.

    Palps: Not this discussion again!


    Or

    Palps: Becareful, Use your insticts.

    Vader: (in a childs voice) I will

    Palps: Use the force. Think

    Vader: I will

    Palps: Good, good boy


    seldon
     
  5. therealmixmaster

    therealmixmaster Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Great spot R2D1000!! I hadn't noticed that motif shared by TPM and ANH before.

    Well done. I like your idea of using it in Episode III but I think it's just a thematic note being used in the opening stanza (as it were) of the two trilogies.
     
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