No I countered by saying that: " While as a Jedi we don't really know what his thoughts were on reformation. We only know the path he eventually settled on. No one forced him to become a Sith. He actively sought the title out and asked for it, claimed it. So i'd say the path he settled on is exactly the one he wanted." In short, there's no way to determine what other path he might have taken other than the path he eventually decided to take, and i've seen nothing from the character over the years to imply a radically different path may have ever been on the table for him. You then countered with this: "I believe it's stated that Dooku initially wanted to track down and destroy the second Sith. And I believe it's also stated that Sidious approached him not the other way around. They talked for a bit and Sidious led Dooku to believe that they had similar interests." Which is when I then brought in the quotes from the novel. To summarize, i'm again saying we can only judge him based on the route he took, and in terms of any possible alternate paths i've seen nothing to imply he would've done anything significantly different that would've somehow made the reformations he undertook less severe. I again don't see him as having been ahead of his peers, and I also don't think he really acted against anything. No initial methods have ever been mentioned. What we know he did was debate with the council, leave the Order, and pursue the Dark Side and an alliance with the Sith. He didn't take any steps at that point to stem the corruption in the Republic. Rather he chose to join forces with the side that had been working to speed up said corruption for centuries. I again don't think anything they said is concrete enough to have a detailed look at what their plans for reformation may have entailed. Just like there's no way to see what plans Dooku may have had anytime before he left the Order, because he's never gone in depth. We know the actions he took after leaving the Order and that's it. With Yoda and Mace, we have no idea how they would've actually gone about doing anything they talked about doing. Merely that they said the Chancellor would need to be taken care of, and the Senate controlled. How exactly any of that would happen, along with eventually rebuilding a new government, is never gone into. That's what i've been saying from the very start. Their methods are decidedly unclear, but their goals aren't. It should also be noted that you're basically talking about two different points. The Jedi are talking about replacing the government after Dooku himself has worked with Palpatine to further poison it and lead to its decline. The government that he saw before leaving the Order and deemed corrupt, is in itself better than the one Mace and Yoda saw and deemed corrupt, wherein a Sith Lord is now in control of it and nearly has the powers of a dictator. That means they're looking at two different pictures. The Jedi chose to do something when the government had reached the point it was being controlled by a despot who sought to enslave the entire galaxy, when they could really say there was no hope left for the Republic in that form. That's a worse scenario than the one Dooku was looking at and chose to leave. Which is again why I wouldn't really say he was ahead of anybody in his views.