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Beyond - Legends "Downfall" (K/J, NJO AU) **COMPLETED 09 March!!**

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction- Before, Saga, and Beyond' started by Dantana Skywalker, Feb 18, 2004.

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  1. Babi_Tahiri

    Babi_Tahiri Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Ahhh.. just as Oskio ends, someone starts up another time travel story! This is great! I love how you're using other words besides "brandy" to describe the color of Jaina's eyes. I can't wait to read more!

    ~^~ Tahiri ~^~
     
  2. Daughterofflame

    Daughterofflame Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Que bueno!!!!!!!!!1



    (For all you grammar freaks, that was completely incorrect. I needed an accent mark, and a punto de exclamacion. Oh well.)


    YaY!!!!!!! Dana has a new story!!!!!!!



    :D :D :D :D :D




    As if I REALLY need another fic to keep up with. :D


    I loved it!!!!! Kyp's gonna save them all!!!!!! (*leads other readers in triumphant cheer*)



    Or maybe not. :(



    anyway, is it maybe too soon to ask for more???!





    ~*~ Austyn
     
  3. Dantana Skywalker

    Dantana Skywalker Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Jaina Durron - Very nice. And the almost kisses...

    Mwahahaha!

    Hmm. What to keep and what to change? Well ultimately anything he changes is going to REALLY change things in the long run. I don't know, Dana, it's really hard to say.

    Yeah, it's been difficult to decide, which is why I haven't actually really written anything on this since the last post . . . but I DO have Chapter 5 finished, which I'm about to post.


    Mia - *groan* This isn't gonna be good. Changing the past is never good...is it??

    Nope!

    LOL, I wanted a peek at the outline of the story! I can't resist time travel stories. And my handwriting is exactly why I got myself a Pocket PC, thank you very much, which did come in very handy tonight.

    I'd get one, but . . . I don't have the money for it. Literally. If I could get one for $50, sure, but, uh . . . no.


    Elfsheen - It's still a bit confusing but i can see something through the mists...or it's just too early to read..since I can't sleep!

    I like being the confusing one this time around! [face_laugh] Jilly's story's STILL got me totally and completely confused.

    Keep going! Going to update your other story too soon?

    Soon, hopefully. I'm working on Chapter 4 of "When The Tide Comes", and I found more "Aftershock" in a notebook last night, so I'm hoping . . . As for "Not Of This Fold" . . . soon, I hope.


    EBW - I'm thinking the next time you give me "mush" You will make it ACTUAL mush.. with the kissy and cuteness.. none of this self denial stuff.

    Ha ha ha!!

    So Post 5 and get Mykyr over with and then gimme mush. Totally,

    Okay.

    Good Post BTW

    Thank you. :)


    Eowyn_Jade - so quick to update! Bravo! wonderful post! [/b]

    Thank you. :) I've only been quick to update 'cause . . . I was bored. And avoiding homework.


    Risste - Same. I'm engrossed. Can't wait for more.

    Well, there's more at the end of these responses. :)


    Babi_Tahiri - Ahhh.. just as Oskio ends, someone starts up another time travel story! This is great! I love how you're using other words besides "brandy" to describe the color of Jaina's eyes. I can't wait to read more!

    There's an unwritten law. There has to always be at least ONE story on here that confuses the heck out of people. :D

    And I purposely came up with OTHER things to describe her eyes. There's an entire thread in the Resource forum about that . . . it's called "A Substitute For Brandy: Breaking THe Colour Cliché". :)


    Daughterofflame - YaY!!!!!!! Dana has a new story!!!!!!! As if I REALLY need another fic to keep up with. I loved it!!!!! Kyp's gonna save them all!!!!!! (*leads other readers in triumphant cheer*)
    Or maybe not.


    This is a new story, actually. It's my most-recently-conceived multi-post, though I wrote most of it in November.

    I have a teensy request. Could you maybe not put tons of spaces in your responses? I love your enthusiasm, I think it's great, but the spaces are a bit . . . difficult. :)

    anyway, is it maybe too soon to ask for more???!

    Certainly not. :)



    -------------------------------------------------------

    And, as advertised, the new chapter. :) This one's a shocker.


    --Chapter Five--


    Here we go again
    Ashamed of being broken in
    We're getting off track
    I wanna get you back again

    -- Matchbox Twenty, "Downfall"



    Myrkr
    28 Years after the Battle of Yavin

    "This isn't going very well," Jaina said through gritted teeth.

    Kyp wisely kept silent, though he glanced at Jaina. Nearby them sat what was left of their strike team: Ganner, Jacen, Anakin, Tahiri, Tekli, Tenel Ka, Zekk, and Lowbacca. They'd lost people he knew had lived through the first time around.

    He knew it, somehow, had to do with his presence. But there wasn't anything he could do about that now.

    Anakin was wounded, bleeding to death slowly from a gash in his abdomen. It had to be painful, but the young man was sufferi
     
  4. EBrooklynW

    EBrooklynW Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Dana... Why did Jasa get hit? Is he gonna die? Is Anakin going to die? WHY DID KYP USE FORCE LIGHTNING!

    ANSWER NOW!

    Then post.

    ~EBW
     
  5. JainaDurron

    JainaDurron Jedi Master star 4

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    One word: Whoa.

    ~~Jilly
     
  6. Risste

    Risste Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ah. This has only become even more intriguing. I hope they don't both fall. That would mean no one to save either... :-D
     
  7. MiaTieska

    MiaTieska Jedi Master star 4

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    Holy cow. Wow. You are so, so freakin' evil. And everyone, just for reference, when I IM'ed Dana and told her that? This was what happened:

    Me: oh my holy crap, you are evil
    Dana: Mwa. Ha. Ha. Ha.


    LOL, yeah it's funny, but also the most evil laugh I have ever seen!

    Dang. Maybe, this all is a dream... maybe...?

    -Mia
     
  8. Elfsheen

    Elfsheen Jedi Knight star 5

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    Oh dear, of you kill Jacen I'm going to be very mad 8-}

    Great post. I think 8-} It's a little less confusing that last time!
     
  9. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Well, Kyp made a total mes of that, didn't he? :D And he is awfully like Anakin, isn't he...? :p

    [looks worriedly at all the K/J'ers :eek:]

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  10. Daughterofflame

    Daughterofflame Jedi Padawan star 4

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    no spaces...
    Ok. I can do that. Great post, BTW. Now you really have me worried. You can't kill Jacen!!!!!!!
    Can you???? :( :( :( :( :( (*sighs, knowing author's prerogative*) More soon, Please!!!!
     
  11. Dantana Skywalker

    Dantana Skywalker Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    EBW - Dana... Why did Jasa get hit? Is he gonna die? Is Anakin going to die? WHY DID KYP USE FORCE LIGHTNING!

    Jacen got hit because . . . he got hit. He died. Pretty much almost instantly. Anakin died.

    As for Kyp, he used Force lightning . . . because he felt bad, and it's something that's always close to the surface with him. But, his action kept Jaina from doing it, which is what she did in the book.


    Jilly - One word: Whoa.

    Thanks. :D


    Risste - Ah. This has only become even more intriguing. I hope they don't both fall. That would mean no one to save either... :-D

    See my response to EBW. :)


    Mia - Holy cow. Wow. You are so, so freakin' evil.

    Yes. Yes, I am.

    And everyone, just for reference, when I IM'ed Dana and told her that? This was what happened:

    Me: oh my holy crap, you are evil
    Dana: Mwa. Ha. Ha. Ha.

    LOL, yeah it's funny, but also the most evil laugh I have ever seen!


    How is that evil?

    Dang. Maybe, this all is a dream... maybe...?

    Hmm. That's an interesting theory. Very . . . "Dallas", if any of you remember? When Bobby died, and then it turned out the entire season had been a really bad dream? An awfully linear bad dream, too.


    Elfsheen - Oh dear, of you kill Jacen I'm going to be very mad

    I'm not going to kill him.

    . . . He's already dead.

    Great post. I think It's a little less confusing that last time!

    Thanks.


    Thrawn McEwok - Well, Kyp made a total mes of that, didn't he? And he is awfully like Anakin, isn't he...?

    Whoa. Okay, now I've seen everything. The Ewok in one of my stories.

    Yes, he is, rather. And he made a HUGE mess of things. Heh heh heh.


    Daughterofflame - Ok. I can do that. Great post, BTW. Now you really have me worried. You can't kill Jacen!!!!!!!
    Can you???? (*sighs, knowing author's prerogative*) More soon, Please!!!!


    Jacen's dead. Sorry. They all have to die. Ha ha ha!

    More soon? Okay. :D


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    Okay, I know I'm glossing over some pretty majour stuff . . . I just wanted to get everyone the heck off Hapes.

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    --Chapter Six--


    I wanna get you back again
    I want you to trouble me
    I wanted you to linger
    I want you to agree with me
    I want so much so bad

    -- Matchbox Twenty, "Downfall"


    Hapes
    28 Years after the Battle of Yavin

    Tahiri died just before they landed at Hapes. Jaina was catatonic, silent and staring. Kyp held her in his arms the whole way, leaving it to Zekk and Lowbacca to fly them to Tenel Ka's home planet.

    They were met by Jagged Fel and his small escort, and guided down to the planet, where they met with Han and Leia Solo.

    Kyp's guilt was almost tangible. It was his fault. If he hadn't been along, Jacen wouldn't have felt compelled to keep him from Jaina, which had made him separate them into groups. He'd been completely useless.

    He surrendered Jaina into the Solos' custody and went to find someplace to get drunk.

    ----------

    It wasn't long before Luke Skywalker found him. "It wasn't your fault, Kyp."

    "Tell that to the people who died."

    "We knew the risks, Kyp."

    He snorted. "It didn't even work. We failed completely. All we did was get even more of us killed."

    Luke's blue eyes searched his face. "We knew that was a possibility. And I'm not going to say that losing my nephews doesn't hurt-"

    "I told her I wouldn't let them die," Kyp said, voice breaking. "I failed her."

    He stood up, leaving his drink unfinished, and stormed away.

    ----------

    He was bothered by more than that he'd failed Jaina. He'd failed her . . . and he'd tapped into the Dark Side.

    Kyp sat for hours on a hill outside the city, until Luke came to fetch him for the funeral.

    Jaina was hiding, so Kyp went to find her. He'd expected to have to drag her, but she fo
     
  12. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Whoa. Okay, now I've seen everything. The Ewok in one of my stories.

    Why is that surprising? ?[face_plain] ;)

    [face_loran]

    Yes, he is, rather. And he made a HUGE mess of things. Heh heh heh.

    Should I point out that Jaina hasn't fallen quite so dramatically to the Dark Side...?

    Jacen's dead. Sorry. They all have to die. Ha ha ha!

    You're insane... no wonder you like this twisted K/J stuff... :p

    Somehow, to Kyp, the victory was hollow.

    Yeah, right. They'll make it work... somehow, kinda, maybe... [face_laugh]

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  13. SaberBlade

    SaberBlade Jedi Master star 3

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    Somehow, to Kyp, the victory was hollow.

    I think this line summed everything up very well. It sort of tied the entire thing all together. I liked Jaina and Kyp talking in that last post; it seemed very realistic.

    I wonder what else is going to change. Will Jaina become something that Kyp can't stand because of what he's done to the timeline? Hm, hope not. Excellent story.

    -Saber
     
  14. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Very good fic! By the way, there's another song called Downfall that I think would fit this fic...its by Trust Company.
     
  15. Elfsheen

    Elfsheen Jedi Knight star 5

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    I know, so not fair... How can you kill Jacen...and Tahiri...are you planning on a characterless fic? 8-}

    I think it has stopped being confusing...or it's just the tea
     
  16. Risste

    Risste Jedi Youngling star 3

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    You know, the character deaths have seriously narrowed the focus.... but I think that is something too few fics do. I don't like to admit it, but often enough I read a fic for just one or two of the plot lines, and skip the others as often as is convenient.

    The story so far contains a resemblance to (the concept at least, [of]) "The Butterfly Effect," or at least what I saw of it in the theatrical trailer.

    I do like the idea that though he knows what had originally happened, Kyp can't necessarily make things better by intervening. But then, we still haven't seen the rest of the story.

    And btw, all women are evil. It's just that some are honest.

    More, please?

     
  17. JainaDurron

    JainaDurron Jedi Master star 4

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    Wow. Um, yeah when yousaid you were changing some things.... Good job though. Really enjoying it so far. :) And I agree with Beth, I hope Jaina hasn't become someone now that Kyp despises.

    ~~Jilly
     
  18. val solo

    val solo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Very interesting story! I'm enjoying it so far and looking forward to the next post. :)

    (And Risste, you'd better hope the females around here cut you some slack and ignore that whole 'evil' comment. ;) )
     
  19. MiaTieska

    MiaTieska Jedi Master star 4

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    Ouch. Ouch ouch. Yeah, everything seems hollow, and I love the style you're using to write this. I mean, Kyp's lived through this before and it just seems so fitting that it all kind of goes by so quickly, cause he's living it again and it sort of seems like a dream. To me, at least.

    Dang. This reality bites!

    -Mia
     
  20. Princess1

    Princess1 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Wow, Dana....

    You've done it again!

    What a great fic, and I am such a sucker for time travel......


    I love the idea of kyp getting to relive things....

    but poor guy, its getting worse.

    The fact that he waited though, he's so honorable....

    But if if I was Jaina I would be rather frusterated! hehe :p

    Poor Jacen. :(


    And Zekk...:(


    Great story though, can't wait to see more! :D


    Or read more, rather, lol.


     
  21. EBrooklynW

    EBrooklynW Jedi Youngling star 1

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    DUDE!
    That went SO INCREDIBLY BAD!

    Does the whole Twin prophecy apply to Luke and Leia now?

    And Jaina will never be Goddess now..

    and Jacen REALLY IS DEAD


    and Venegre won't like help or nothing,,,

    Post more now!

    Chocolate covered Kyps for you!

    ~EBW
     
  22. Dantana Skywalker

    Dantana Skywalker Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Thrawn McEwok - Why is that surprising?

    Because I've never seen you in one of my threads . . . at least that I can remember.

    [face_loran]

    Heeeee . . . that thing cracked me up!

    Should I point out that Jaina hasn't fallen quite so dramatically to the Dark Side...?

    She hasn't, has she? Hmm . . .

    You're insane... no wonder you like this twisted K/J stuff...

    Can I put that in my sig? :D

    Yeah, right. They'll make it work... somehow, kinda, maybe...

    Jag and Jaina or Kyp and Jaina? I will always be K/J. Kyppie go bragh!


    SaberBlade - I think this line summed everything up very well. It sort of tied the entire thing all together. I liked Jaina and Kyp talking in that last post; it seemed very realistic.

    I try to keep my conversations at least semirealistic. Like people would actually talk.

    I wonder what else is going to change. Will Jaina become something that Kyp can't stand because of what he's done to the timeline? Hm, hope not. Excellent story.

    Well . . . you'll see, that's all I can say.


    Suzuki_Akira - Very good fic! By the way, there's another song called Downfall that I think would fit this fic...its by Trust Company.

    Thank you. And welcome to *MY* world. Heh heh heh!

    I'll have to check that out, I've never heard of it.


    Elfsheen - I know, so not fair... How can you kill Jacen...and Tahiri...are you planning on a characterless fic?

    Why, yes, I am! Just kidding. Well, heck, I'd pretty much be the first . . . Kill everybody and THEN continue the story. I'll talk about asteroids. Yeah, that's it!

    I think it has stopped being confusing...or it's just the tea

    It's only less confusing 'cause I've stopped talking about visions and time travel.


    Risste - You know, the character deaths have seriously narrowed the focus.... but I think that is something too few fics do. I don't like to admit it, but often enough I read a fic for just one or two of the plot lines, and skip the others as often as is convenient.

    I occasionally TRY to follow it all, but I'm more interested in just one pairing in a story . . . which makes stuff like "Aftershock" difficult to write, but at least I'm working on my skills.

    You know how rare it is that people actually do a multi-character conversation? I just realised that I try to include them in all of my 'fics.

    The story so far contains a resemblance to (the concept at least, [of]) "The Butterfly Effect," or at least what I saw of it in the theatrical trailer.

    And the interesting thing is, the day after I started posting this story, I was at a panel on the use of time travel in science fiction . . . Weird.

    I do like the idea that though he knows what had originally happened, Kyp can't necessarily make things better by intervening. But then, we still haven't seen the rest of the story.

    No, we certainly haven't. And that's always one of the things about changing the past. If you save someone's life . . . what if they go and kill someone later? Like in "Spiderman".

    And btw, all women are evil. It's just that some are honest.

    More, please?


    You actually expect me to post more after that? I'm a woman. You just called my gender evil. That's counter-productive, buddy.


    JainaDurron - Wow. Um, yeah when yousaid you were changing some things.... Good job though. Really enjoying it so far. And I agree with Beth, I hope Jaina hasn't become someone now that Kyp despises.

    Aw, c'mon, I'm a softie at heart! Would I really do that to poor Kyppie? *thinks about several of her more recent 'fics* Uh, scratch that . . .

    Well, it's all based on a "what if", so . . . Naturally I'm gonna change as much as I can. The premise was, what would Kyp's presence at Myrkr have done, if he knew Anakin was going to die? And, also . . . what if Kyp had kissed Jaina at Sernpidal?


    val solo - Very interesting story! I'm enjoying it so far and looking forward to t
     
  23. Dantana Skywalker

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    Moved this out of the other for length.

    We're now half-way through the story.

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    --Chapter Seven--


    Come on and lay it down
    I've always been with you
    Here and now

    -- Matchbox Twenty, "Downfall"


    Mon Calamari
    28 Years after the Battle of Yavin

    The ocean was dying. Jaina could feel it. Ever since her brothers' deaths, she'd been hypersensitive to the life forms around here, and she could feel the weakening of the things that lived here in the waters of Mon Cal.

    But it wasn't just Mon Cal. It was everywhere.

    The voxyn program had continued. Mirax Terrik and her husband, Corran Horn, had fallen to them several months before. Her uncle's estimate of their numbers, now, of the Jedi, was about twenty.

    Twenty Jedi, in the entire galaxy.

    Sure, twenty years ago, there'd been one Jedi, but still.

    She touched a hand to the short spikes of hair on her hair. For a moment, she smirked. Kyp's hair was longer than her own.

    "Regretting the 'do?"

    Jaina jumped, startled, as Kyp sat next to her. She glanced over, then picked up another rock and chucked it into the water. "What's up?"

    "Just talked to your uncle. Mara wants to visit Haven."

    "I don't think that's a good idea," Jaina said.

    "Neither does Luke, but Mara's insisting. She wants to protect him herself."

    Jaina sighed. "I thought we could win," she whispered sadly. "But we're losing. We've only got a handful of planets left."

    "Don't think about it, Goddess."

    "What else is there to think about? Since I was seventeen, I've been fighting this war. I'm almost twenty now, Kyp. And it's not like the War of Independence. This is brutal, wholesale slaughter."

    He wrapped his arms around her. "I know."

    Her shirtfront beeped once, then twice. With a sigh, Jaina sat up and activated her commlink. "Solo."

    It was her mother's voice that told her, "Jaina? We're calling a meeting. Is Kyp with you?"

    "Where else would he be?" she asked. There was a sinking feeling in her heart. Who had they lost now?

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    The back wall in the meeting room of the building given by the remnants of the New Republic to the Jedi held in durasteel the names of the fallen.

    Jaina Solo ran her fingertip down the list of names, stopping on the newest additions. Zekk Ennth. Lowbacca. Cilghal. Danni Quee.

    She lightly touched the names "Anakin Solo" and "Jacen Solo". Slowly, her fingers curled into a fist as she stared at the little gouges that were all that was left of her siblings.

    Suddenly, she was hammering her fist against the wall, tears streaming down her face. It wasn't fair! This was their galaxy! These were her friends, her family!

    And one by one, she was watching them fall.

    Somehow, he was there, as always, a protective bulwark, something to cling to. He never asked for anything in return, and she wondered what she'd ever done to deserve such devotion.

    "I don't want to be alone," she cried.

    "Jaina . . . You'll never be alone. Never." Kyp pressed his lips to her forehead.

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    A week later, they learned of the fall of Hapes, and the deaths of Jagged Fel and Queen Mother Tenel Ka. Jaina locked herself in her room for three days. The loss of her childhood friends, with the deaths of her brothers, was weighing heavily on her.

    It was typical survivor's guilt, Kyp knew, and he wished there were something he could do, but other than give her his support, there was nothing. Every time he tried to fix something, he broke it.

    He'd changed something, somehow, something that had led to this. By this point, the first time, they'd been fighting the Peace Brigade, learning of the survival of Jacen Solo . . . and Jaina had been intimately involved with Jagged Fel.

    Kyp wondered if Jaina's involvement with Jag had had anything to do with it. Was there something Fel had done? By keeping Jag and Jaina apart, had he changed something fundamental, and they were all going to die because of it?

     
  24. MiaTieska

    MiaTieska Jedi Master star 4

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    This story's only halfway done so I know that it can't be the end Jaina's thinking about yet! ...Unless a lot of the story is Kyp back in the rightful timeline. Yes? Pretty please?

    -Mia
     
  25. JainaDurron

    JainaDurron Jedi Master star 4

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    Hmm. Very interesting. Looking forward to more, Dana.

    ~~Jilly
     
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