Saga Dramatic Lightsaber Moves

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by darthbarracuda, Sep 22, 2013.

  1. darthbarracuda Jedi Grand Master

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    Example: Mace is about to kill Palps. He draws his arm up, exposing his entire body, and swings the lightsaber like it's a medieval iron sword.

    Before, Mace had the lightsaber right at Palps' throat. Couldn't he just, like, *dink* with the lightsaber and kill Palps instead of going through this dramatic swing. It's that swing that opened him up for Anakin to cut off his hand which allowed Palps to zap him which caused Mace to die, Anakin to become Darth Vader, and Palps rule the entire galaxy. A single swing.
  2. HevyDevy Force Ghost

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    Yeah, Mace's swing there was quite overly dramatic, to me it really adds to the weight of Anakin's actions in the scene. Mace comes so close to ending it, and then Anakin comes "to the rescue" :p . Hard to say why I like the moment so much, it's partially because of the swing, as you say.

    A few of my own...
    TPM- Two here, at the end of Kenobi vs Maul. Obi-Wan's last angry swing that leads to the saber lock at the end of the duel. Maul overpowers him and force-pushes Obi off the ledge, which wins the duel for Maul, until Obi-Wan jumps over him and symbolically becomes a Jedi by using Qui-Gon's saber to cut Maul in half.

    AOTC- Dooku taking his time to finish Obi-Wan off, which is intercepted by Anakin.

    ROTS- Palpatine's drawn out stab as he begins taking out Mace's posse.
    - The moment Obi-Wan jumps to higher ground on the lava-bank. Anakin takes a swing as Obi-Wan jumps, and almost takes off his legs. Seems important to me because it could have turned out so differently. And of course, Obi-Wan's vertical swing that dismembers Anakin and ends the fight.
  3. Seagoat Force Ghost

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    The OT isn't free of them either.

    Anyone remember Obi-Wan's very slow 360 spin during his duel in ANH? Is that really a "realistic" fencing move?
  4. Sarge Chosen One

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    It is occasionally/rarely an effective move. Every now and then when the footwork is just so, the blades are moving in the right directions, and the stars come into alignment, I've done that and survived, but I never won a fight with that move. I did lose a fight to a girl who spun in front of me and wacked me in the head with a longsword; it was so beautifully done that I just stood there and said, "Wow, that was awesome!"
  5. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    As a person who sword fights for exercise and fun but has never taken a lesson (obviously I use practice swords, nothing sharp), I can vouch for this–I have been able to spin while fighting before, but doing so has never gained me a win. In fact, quite a lot it either gets me a loss or sets me off-balance so much that I either hit the ground or have to stumble away to avoid losing.
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  6. Minez01 Force Ghost

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    The spin in the OT duel is horrible IMO. I'm glad this topic was made though - the sequence where Mace draws his lightsaber up ready to kill Palpatine is my single most hated sequence of any of the movies, or anything I've read in the EU. I actually outwardly cringed while in the cinema when that happened.

    Also, in ROTS when Obi and Vader are fighting and they both swing their sabers behind their backs back and forth for like 3 seconds each before actually trying to hit the other person. It looked cool, but that's about it.
  7. The Supreme Chancellor Force Ghost

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    Yeah the Mace Windu super-swing is simply ridiculous. He looked more the like the bad guy in a bad horror movie than a seasoned Jedi Master in that scene.
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  8. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    What about when Vader and Obi-Wan are swinging their lightsabers for like 5 minutes before their blades make contact in ROTS?
  9. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Just one of them drama things. A melee weapon of pure energy cutting through anything. The combat would look more like fencing I think.
  10. The Supreme Chancellor Force Ghost

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    Obi-Wan and Anakin are so close that their duel is almost more like a dance, it's all about who can execute more personally. I found that part to me more believable just because of that.
  11. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    This. The thing is, they were so used to dueling, that they both tried to do the same move at the same time, only in reverse to the other, so their sabers never actually touched.
  12. darthbarracuda Jedi Grand Master

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    Or when they are swinging on some rope-like things at each other and clash while over the lava on Mustafar...what was the point in that.
  13. Jarren_Lee-Saber Force Ghost

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    Thats what I thought to, they knew each other's moves so well that they responded so fast that their sabers didn't clash.
  14. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    The only lightsaber moves I don't care for are the Obi-Wan half-feint in Duel of the Fates and the Obi-Wan and Anakin thing in ROTS.
  15. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Ha this reminds me of the scene in ROTS where Anakin and Obi-Wan all of a sudden have seizures and swing their Lightsabers around like idiots.
  16. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    I love the Mace v Palps duel but even I laughed at this
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  17. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    He could, but it would lose the dramatic effect. This is cinema after all... Many movies have scenes/shots like that...
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  18. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    Great excuse there.
  19. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    It's not an excuse, it's a statement of fact.
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  20. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    Do you think it is a plot hole?
  21. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    Fight scenes in general are cinematic, not realistic. That's true pretty much across the board. It's not unique to Star Wars
    Last edited by Captain Tom Coughlin, Sep 25, 2013
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  22. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    You could make a case that the OT duels were realistic.
  23. Minez01 Force Ghost

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    Ha yeah who knows. I mean even at the end when they jump on the lava robot things, it's all a bit pointless. I mean realistically if the whole place is melting and stuff you'd think the best place to be would inside/near the building where they started. It's kinda like they just start moving and then ended up playing chasey. How did Obi Wan get back to the ship once he cut Vader in half? Would have been a long walk.
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  24. darthbarracuda Jedi Grand Master

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    Also, Anakin could not have survived for very long being all scorched up and stuff. So Palps had to have been there pretty soon. Wouldn't you think Palps would sense Obi Wan's departure from Mustafar?
  25. HevyDevy Force Ghost

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    Well, Palpatine doesn't arrive till after Obi-Wan leaves, but you are probably right, it wasn't by a very large margin.
    I'm just posting to say this reminds me of an interesting bit of symbolism in the scenes. Palpatine arrives on the same platform that Obi-Wan, Padme and R2 and C3PO leave from. You could say that the good guys, as a symbol of Anakin's past and connection to his good side are replaced by Palpatine and the dark side.
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