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JCC Drinking from the Holy Grail

Discussion in 'Community' started by VadersLaMent, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    So, if you believe in said Grail and even find the traps and the immortal guardian wouldn't than mean your God is real and some everlasting bliss awaits you? Should not have Mr Donovan turned good right then and helped Indy and his dad and have had a good old fashioned Christian redemption?
     
  2. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    That's why he died and Henry was able to say "Indiana... let it go." They didn't believe, not really.

    It's explicitly stated in the movie.
     
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  3. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    1. Donovan's plan was screwed from the beginning, simply by him teaming up with the Nazis. "I plan to be drinking my health when Hitler's gone the way of the dodo." Yeah if you really believe that Hitler would allow you to keep immortality for yourself, you've got another thing coming.



    2. The problem with Christian redemption is that everlasting life only comes AFTER death.

    Donovan wanted to cheat death completely, which is generally a horrible idea when it involves drinking holy water from a supernatural artifact.

    Donovan's just lucky he didn't get pureed by a water tornado.
     
  4. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Well I don't think either Donovan or the Nazis "teamed" so much as tried to use each other as tools. It's like a friendly game of chess where each side is aware of the cheating habits of the other.
     
  5. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Pfft, all that could be explained by SCIENCE.

    The immortal guardian has a large library of boring books that he reads to make his life longer. The water includes a chemical that becomes poison when it touches gold for longer than a few seconds.

    And the traps have been kept in condition by a local group of short people who have nothing better to do.
     
  6. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    They believed enough to go after a magic thingy. Hence what magic is powering the magic thingy?
     
  7. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    They (Donovan / Ilsa) believed in the artifact, not in Christian doctrine. That's why they made poor life choices...
     
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  8. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    What they didn't know is that the cistern was also the knight's urinal.
    [​IMG]
    "Because it's sterile and I LIKE it!"
     
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  9. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    How low must your Wisdom Score be though? You walk into a cave and this dude from an ancient world is there. How about a lil Q&A? Donovan = WIS: 3?
     
  10. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    The magic was in the cave itself. "It cannot pass the Great Seal. That is the price of immortality."

    You can live forever.....but you have to cloister yourself in the cave, because if you try to take the grail from the cave, you're going to collapse the entire thing and kill the kindly old knight that lives there.


    Which begs the question....who placed the blessing/curse/spell on the cave to begin with? Was the knight actually Merlin?
     
  11. slightly_unhinged

    slightly_unhinged Jedi Master star 4

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    The real Holy Grail appears in an entirely different film starring two girls.
     
  12. mrsvos

    mrsvos Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I am The Cup of Immortality so ya'll can just end your debate.
    thanks for playing.
     
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  13. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    But you never let us drink from you at Celebration... :(
     
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  14. mrsvos

    mrsvos Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I do enough drinking for everyone.
     
  15. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    I'm sure she's a lovely woman in person, but I can't shake the dull lifeless eyes of her Goatse-Vajayjay ET-Muppet-Gargoyle Thing avatar.
     
  16. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    I thought the Holy Grail was in the castle of Aaaarrrrggghhhh.
     
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  17. Mortimer Snerd

    Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost star 4

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    That sounds like a challenge.
     
  18. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    It's not one you want to take.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    somebody pointed out to me today that elsa deliberately picks the wrong cup for donovan in order to **** him up. i said, "yeah, you're right about that, i think."
     
  20. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Perhaps he should watch Sherlock Holmes more often.
     
  21. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    ok, i'll let him know.
     
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