Dual-Alias Admins, Secret Agendas, and Firing Beloved Moderators

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Senator Dzrekpo Amegnran, Oct 11, 2001.

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  1. Jedi Greg Maddux Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Aug 3, 1999
    star 6
    PB - I subscribe to the JC Insider :D
  2. PreacherBoy Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Aug 3, 1998
    star 5
  3. Missninfan Manager Emeritus

    Member Since:
    May 6, 2000
    star 5
    What is the point of attacking admins here?
  4. Cigam Retah Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Mar 30, 1999
    star 5
  5. Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Feb 18, 2001
    star 5
    I don't know much about Chyren.

    Vert and Pbra are cool, and good mods.


    I don't know much about Pboy, but I've heard lots of bad things, and not many good things. However, hearsay is often inaccurate.

    DL I think is pretty cool, because he's one of the few mods(other than the Gatherer, who rarely posts outside of the EU forums) that supports the EU. Most other mods that I've seen have veiled contempt at best and downright loathing at worst for it.
    I don't really know about his abilities as a mod, but he's a pretty cool guy.

    As for Azeem, from what I've seen, my opinion of him is pretty low, and unless he's changed, I wouldn't want to post at a board he's in charge of(again).

    If only I could find that DRAMA pic. :)
  6. Fathead Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jun 12, 1999
    star 4
    This is the largest waste of server space since Kyle Katarn.






    If EVER there was a time for the rolleyes smiley, it's right now.
  7. Fathead Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jun 12, 1999
    star 4
    Okay, now I can be serious.





    This is the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. TF.N can do whatever the hell it wants with this site. If they want to make it a site about goat herding in Malaysia, it's their dime. If they want to demote people, then so be it. Even if they are doing the greatest job in the world and every single person on this board is happy.


    Now, that being said, Mods and Admins can't do whatever the hell they want. They do what TF.N says. If they don't do that, they get canned. Pretty simple.


    If TF.N has no problem with people working here and at starwars.com, then fine. NO ONE IS MAKING YOU POST HERE. NO ONE IS MAKING YOU ADMINISTRATE HERE. NO ONE IS MAKING YOU DO A DAMN THING AND YOU AREN'T PAYING FOR THIS SERVICE. So accept it and shut the hell up or don't accept it and get the hell out.






  8. Jedi Eowyn Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Jul 28, 1999
    star 3
    I've thought this before, but never posted it here I don't think.

    I think the term of a JC mod/manager should be one year only.

    ----editing to add:

    Because then they'd be fresh. And there would be less confusion between the person and the role.
  9. farraday Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Jan 27, 2000
    star 7
    You know I think it's required that a mod bashing thread is started every now and then, just on general principle.

  10. IronParrot Manager Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Aug 2, 1999
    star 5
    The JC should be multipartisan. That way, a balance of power can be maintained through constant bickering within the admins. To hell with admin coherence, I say! Those are the roots of a dictatorial oligarchy that breeds propagandistic thought control over the membership in a most elitist and selfish fashion. The JC may not be a democracy, but it is still representative!

    Well I can dream can't I...
  11. Vertical Former Head Admin

    Member Since:
    Apr 6, 1999
    star 6
    Sounds about right to me, IP.

    Vertical
  12. farraday Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Jan 27, 2000
    star 7
    Vert, IP, you're wrong.

    Almost everyone here thinks the JC needs a dictator, benevolent or otherwise.
    The fact they each one thinks that it should be them is immaterial.
  13. Ender Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Aug 12, 1998
    star 6
    And I say farraday should be that dictator!!

    Who's with me?!
  14. snap-hiss Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Aug 23, 2001
    star 5
    I just saw this thread, and it's madness.... madness


    !snap
  15. PreacherBoy Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Aug 3, 1998
    star 5
    If that's gonna happen, can I choose the party names? I have some doozies.
  16. snap-hiss Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Aug 23, 2001
    star 5
    I've read almost this entire thread and still have questions about what's going on. Can anyone fill me in:

    1) What has PreacherBoy done to make so many feel he is a poor mod?
    2) What is the Refuge, and what is the concept of Refuge VS. JC?
    2)How the heck does a board like this get such politics?

    "I pray you will bring sanity to the Republic."


    !snap
  17. PeyoteTheCoyote Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Sep 30, 2001
    Would now be good time to call for the unbanning for the following people:

    Modal+Nodes+Freak
    Kyle Katarn
    darthpsychotic
    I Will Make It Legal
    Red Lightsaber


    By the way, they are talking about you.
    http://forums.starwars.com/
  18. legacyAccount Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    May 22, 2012
    ?[face_plain]

    this is one of the longest threads i've read without understanding what it's really about.

    this is a starwars board. it is not real life. it is not the only starwars board on the internet. if you don't like the way it's being run, say something or leave. no mod is perfect. everyone makes mistakes. and, dude, they're not even getting paid. cut them some slack! trying to bring it/them down makes no sense. and, to be honest, it's not really worth the effort.

  19. bright sith Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Aug 27, 1999
    star 5
    When did the JC develop into parties taking a piece with them? Rhetorical question of course, but it is so ridiculous that other spinoff boards of the JC become relevant topics in the JC.
  20. PeyoteTheCoyote Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Sep 30, 2001
    I don't think anybody who frequents the Slacker Council ezboard should be calling anyone else a dork.

    Whats your grievance with psycho? He doesn't give you hacked passwords?
    He almost shut down the SC? For that alone psychotic should be unbanned.

    Separate and private ezboards for some of the moderators are a conflict of interest methinks.
  21. Darth Mischievous Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Oct 12, 1999
    star 6
    I've read through this entire thread.

    A few points:

    Some of the members here have made very valid arguments about the sad state of affairs that is now the JC.

    And what do they get for it?

    The treatment that the administration itself condemns.

    PreacherBoy has flamed everyone who has disputed his opinon on the matter, and Cigam has done an excellent job in making it painfully obvious of his brown-nosing ability to say it tactfully.

    So, what does this say about the state of affairs on this forum? It isn't in good shape.

    What DLM said holds true:

    The amount of corruption and malfeasance I see here is extraordinary.


    She isn't the only one.
  22. PeyoteTheCoyote Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Sep 30, 2001
    First, of I apologize if I came off as rude and if anyone wants to call me on it go right ahead, I won't say nothin about it! :)

    As far as psychotic being racist, he claims to be half-american indian, (like myself, hence the my screen-name) and uses racial slurs like they do out on "the street" whatever that means.

    Katarn, I believe was accused of taking peoples email addresses and putting them on porn mailing lists, so I heard. Please correct me if I'm wrong, please!
  23. FlareStorm Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 13, 2000
    star 6
    I complained about some user breaking the rules, and they were chastised. Then some admin (PB I heard) went and told that user that it was my fault. So now I have some nutball giving me threats in other net venues and intent on rl violence.

    Thanks a lot JC, whats the number for your lawyer?
  24. heavygear6 Jedi Padawan

    Member Since:
    Jul 11, 2001
    star 4
    "whats the number for your lawyer" [face_laugh]

    Bwahahahahahaha!

    Sorry, I found that rather funny..... :D
  25. Grimby Technical Consultant

    Administrator
    Member Since:
    Apr 22, 2000
    star 7
    there! now don't we all feel better? group hug everybody! :D


    seriously though, it's not a pretty site when the bickering exists even between the mods. in my opinion, a thread like this is evidence enough that changes need to be made. i don't know what the answer is, all i know is that this place is not running smoothly and people are unhappy. what must be done in order to restore the prestige this place once had? do rules need to be changed? do mods need to be let go? does the entire government structure need to be changed?

    a lot of users have posted in this thread their disgusts for others and/or brought up old grudges from past incidents. while i agree that it's good to get things out in the open sometimes, can we use this outburst to pinpoint the root of the JC's problems and learn from our past mistakes? can the mods and admins come together and restore our beloved JC?

    a few observations:
    • while preacherboy seems to be pissing more and more people off, nathandahlin has done nothing but attempt to fix the situation. who's gaining your respect?


    • no one here seems to like azeem. personally i don't know the guy, so i don't have an opinion. however, what max veers posted makes me think otherwise. if what he posted is true, this guy is a huge asset to TFN. if he's not the greatest admin in the world and people are unhappy, i hope he'd realize this and leave control up to those who are!


    • based on josh's post:
      We're coming to decisions on the future of the JC, though I wouldn't put nearly as much stock in this report as many of you are already. Where's the salt?
      i'd say changes are evident. let's hope they're for the best.

    i have no doubt that some among us have secret personal agendas for being here. but i urge all of you to think for a moment what reason it was you came to the JC. why did you start posting here? why did you stay? with that in mind think about what it is you feel is wrong here. put your agenda aside for a second and think about what this place would be like if these problems didn't exist...


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