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Dual-Alias Admins, Secret Agendas, and Firing Beloved Moderators

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Senator Dzrekpo Amegnran, Oct 11, 2001.

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  1. Jedi Greg Maddux

    Jedi Greg Maddux Jedi Knight star 6

    Aug 3, 1999
    PB - I subscribe to the JC Insider :D
  2. PreacherBoy

    PreacherBoy Jedi Youngling star 5

    Aug 3, 1998
  3. Missninfan

    Missninfan Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    May 6, 2000
    What is the point of attacking admins here?
  4. Cigam Retah

    Cigam Retah Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Mar 30, 1999
    You tell me.
  5. Saint_of_Killers

    Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling star 5

    Feb 18, 2001
    I don't know much about Chyren.

    Vert and Pbra are cool, and good mods.

    I don't know much about Pboy, but I've heard lots of bad things, and not many good things. However, hearsay is often inaccurate.

    DL I think is pretty cool, because he's one of the few mods(other than the Gatherer, who rarely posts outside of the EU forums) that supports the EU. Most other mods that I've seen have veiled contempt at best and downright loathing at worst for it.
    I don't really know about his abilities as a mod, but he's a pretty cool guy.

    As for Azeem, from what I've seen, my opinion of him is pretty low, and unless he's changed, I wouldn't want to post at a board he's in charge of(again).

    If only I could find that DRAMA pic. :)
  6. Fathead

    Fathead Jedi Master star 4

    Jun 12, 1999
    This is the largest waste of server space since Kyle Katarn.

    If EVER there was a time for the rolleyes smiley, it's right now.
  7. Fathead

    Fathead Jedi Master star 4

    Jun 12, 1999
    Okay, now I can be serious.

    This is the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. TF.N can do whatever the hell it wants with this site. If they want to make it a site about goat herding in Malaysia, it's their dime. If they want to demote people, then so be it. Even if they are doing the greatest job in the world and every single person on this board is happy.

    Now, that being said, Mods and Admins can't do whatever the hell they want. They do what TF.N says. If they don't do that, they get canned. Pretty simple.

    If TF.N has no problem with people working here and at, then fine. NO ONE IS MAKING YOU POST HERE. NO ONE IS MAKING YOU ADMINISTRATE HERE. NO ONE IS MAKING YOU DO A DAMN THING AND YOU AREN'T PAYING FOR THIS SERVICE. So accept it and shut the hell up or don't accept it and get the hell out.

  8. Jedi Eowyn

    Jedi Eowyn Jedi Youngling star 3

    Jul 28, 1999
    I've thought this before, but never posted it here I don't think.

    I think the term of a JC mod/manager should be one year only.

    ----editing to add:

    Because then they'd be fresh. And there would be less confusion between the person and the role.
  9. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

    Jan 27, 2000
    You know I think it's required that a mod bashing thread is started every now and then, just on general principle.

  10. IronParrot

    IronParrot Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Aug 2, 1999
    The JC should be multipartisan. That way, a balance of power can be maintained through constant bickering within the admins. To hell with admin coherence, I say! Those are the roots of a dictatorial oligarchy that breeds propagandistic thought control over the membership in a most elitist and selfish fashion. The JC may not be a democracy, but it is still representative!

    Well I can dream can't I...
  11. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Apr 6, 1999
    Sounds about right to me, IP.

  12. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

    Jan 27, 2000
    Vert, IP, you're wrong.

    Almost everyone here thinks the JC needs a dictator, benevolent or otherwise.
    The fact they each one thinks that it should be them is immaterial.
  13. Ender

    Ender Jedi Knight star 6

    Aug 12, 1998
    And I say farraday should be that dictator!!

    Who's with me?!
  14. snap-hiss

    snap-hiss Jedi Master star 5

    Aug 23, 2001
    I just saw this thread, and it's madness.... madness

  15. PreacherBoy

    PreacherBoy Jedi Youngling star 5

    Aug 3, 1998
    If that's gonna happen, can I choose the party names? I have some doozies.
  16. snap-hiss

    snap-hiss Jedi Master star 5

    Aug 23, 2001
    I've read almost this entire thread and still have questions about what's going on. Can anyone fill me in:

    1) What has PreacherBoy done to make so many feel he is a poor mod?
    2) What is the Refuge, and what is the concept of Refuge VS. JC?
    2)How the heck does a board like this get such politics?

    "I pray you will bring sanity to the Republic."

  17. PeyoteTheCoyote

    PeyoteTheCoyote Jedi Youngling

    Sep 30, 2001
    Would now be good time to call for the unbanning for the following people:
    Kyle Katarn
    I Will Make It Legal
    Red Lightsaber

    By the way, they are talking about you.
  18. legacyAccount

    legacyAccount Jedi Youngling

    May 22, 2012

    this is one of the longest threads i've read without understanding what it's really about.

    this is a starwars board. it is not real life. it is not the only starwars board on the internet. if you don't like the way it's being run, say something or leave. no mod is perfect. everyone makes mistakes. and, dude, they're not even getting paid. cut them some slack! trying to bring it/them down makes no sense. and, to be honest, it's not really worth the effort.

  19. bright sith

    bright sith Jedi Knight star 5

    Aug 27, 1999
    When did the JC develop into parties taking a piece with them? Rhetorical question of course, but it is so ridiculous that other spinoff boards of the JC become relevant topics in the JC.
  20. PeyoteTheCoyote

    PeyoteTheCoyote Jedi Youngling

    Sep 30, 2001
    I don't think anybody who frequents the Slacker Council ezboard should be calling anyone else a dork.

    Whats your grievance with psycho? He doesn't give you hacked passwords?
    He almost shut down the SC? For that alone psychotic should be unbanned.

    Separate and private ezboards for some of the moderators are a conflict of interest methinks.
  21. Darth Mischievous

    Darth Mischievous Jedi Grand Master star 6

    Oct 12, 1999
    I've read through this entire thread.

    A few points:

    Some of the members here have made very valid arguments about the sad state of affairs that is now the JC.

    And what do they get for it?

    The treatment that the administration itself condemns.

    PreacherBoy has flamed everyone who has disputed his opinon on the matter, and Cigam has done an excellent job in making it painfully obvious of his brown-nosing ability to say it tactfully.

    So, what does this say about the state of affairs on this forum? It isn't in good shape.

    What DLM said holds true:

    [blockquote]The amount of corruption and malfeasance I see here is extraordinary.[/blockquote]

    She isn't the only one.
  22. PeyoteTheCoyote

    PeyoteTheCoyote Jedi Youngling

    Sep 30, 2001
    First, of I apologize if I came off as rude and if anyone wants to call me on it go right ahead, I won't say nothin about it! :)

    As far as psychotic being racist, he claims to be half-american indian, (like myself, hence the my screen-name) and uses racial slurs like they do out on "the street" whatever that means.

    Katarn, I believe was accused of taking peoples email addresses and putting them on porn mailing lists, so I heard. Please correct me if I'm wrong, please!
  23. FlareStorm

    FlareStorm Jedi Master star 6

    Nov 13, 2000
    I complained about some user breaking the rules, and they were chastised. Then some admin (PB I heard) went and told that user that it was my fault. So now I have some nutball giving me threats in other net venues and intent on rl violence.

    Thanks a lot JC, whats the number for your lawyer?
  24. heavygear6

    heavygear6 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Jul 11, 2001
    "whats the number for your lawyer" [face_laugh]


    Sorry, I found that rather funny..... :D
  25. Grimby

    Grimby Technical Consultant & Former Head Admin star 7 Staff Member Administrator

    Apr 22, 2000
    there! now don't we all feel better? group hug everybody! :D

    seriously though, it's not a pretty site when the bickering exists even between the mods. in my opinion, a thread like this is evidence enough that changes need to be made. i don't know what the answer is, all i know is that this place is not running smoothly and people are unhappy. what must be done in order to restore the prestige this place once had? do rules need to be changed? do mods need to be let go? does the entire government structure need to be changed?

    a lot of users have posted in this thread their disgusts for others and/or brought up old grudges from past incidents. while i agree that it's good to get things out in the open sometimes, can we use this outburst to pinpoint the root of the JC's problems and learn from our past mistakes? can the mods and admins come together and restore our beloved JC?

    a few observations:
    [ul][li]while preacherboy seems to be pissing more and more people off, nathandahlin has done nothing but attempt to fix the situation. who's gaining your respect?[/li]

    [li]no one here seems to like azeem. personally i don't know the guy, so i don't have an opinion. however, what max veers posted makes me think otherwise. if what he posted is true, this guy is a huge asset to TFN. if he's not the greatest admin in the world and people are unhappy, i hope he'd realize this and leave control up to those who are![/li]

    [li]based on josh's post:
    We're coming to decisions on the future of the JC, though I wouldn't put nearly as much stock in this report as many of you are already. Where's the salt?
    i'd say changes are evident. let's hope they're for the best.[/li][/ul]
    i have no doubt that some among us have secret personal agendas for being here. but i urge all of you to think for a moment what reason it was you came to the JC. why did you start posting here? why did you stay? with that in mind think about what it is you feel is wrong here. put your agenda aside for a second and think about what this place would be like if these problems didn't exist...

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