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Lit Eleven-ThirtyEight and stuff

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Jul 8, 2013.

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Well?

  1. I don't care

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  2. Hm, neat

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  3. OMG COOPER IS MY HERO

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  1. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Just a friendly moderating note: we try to criticize the posts, not the posters. While you might well think that a person's retrograde (or just sheltered) opinions mark them as a terrible person, you shouldn't comment on such.

    It's very easy to get heated on things like this, especially the nearer and dearer these causes are. But even forum rules aside, let's just try to stay on the high road too and never make it personal. Focus on the cause and not the people.


    Misa ab iPhono meo est.
     
  2. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah as wrong as people may be, try to feel sorry for them rather than angry at them. Take the high road.
     
  3. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Although I can totally get feeling angry. I certainly do sometimes. I just keep it out of my posts because I'm not very persuasive when I'm just yelling at or belittling somebody I'm trying to convince.

    Well, more accurately I make a post and immediately get second thoughts about certain parts and edit it about five times in five minutes until it appears calm and reasonable instead of heated and angry. [face_shhh]

    That's the nice thing about the high road. It's not only principled, but it makes you and more importantly -- your argument -- look better.


    Misa ab iPhono meo est.
     
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  4. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There's your secret. For hair, it's Maybelline, for Jello it's post-editing.
     
  5. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Yeah, but if I'm quoted in those first five minutes I have to just roll with it. Luckily I'm good at throwing myself into last minute rhetorical contortions.


    Misa ab iPhono meo est.
     
  6. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Posters make the posts, yes, but I don't see any single poster being singled out here except Contessa. Add that certain users here, including staff, have been tossing the term "racism" and "racist" at posters who think/thought the possibility of Sabine being asian was a positive thing with no rebuke - well lets just say I don't see why it is alright for only one side of the "discussion" to get to play with labels.
     
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  7. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The emphasis is on the part about "asterisks people" -- that's not desirable, whether those users are specified or not. It's the conduct that's at issue, not whether people are "called out" -- as noted, it is absolutely legitimate to call out individuals for bad arguments but just not to call them bad people. It's about not getting personal.

    And as to the users you refer to, as I recall these discussions about Sabine that Mia's article referred to occurred in LACWAC, yes? I can't do much about that except open a dialogue with the mods there. If you see it happening in Lit though and it goes un moderated or unnoticed, then please feel free to bring it to my attention via PM or post tag.

    It's a rule that applies to everybody, even if you see incidents falling through the cracks.


    Misa ab iPhono meo est.
     
  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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  9. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't agree with you but I'm proud anyway.
     
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  10. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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  11. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Master star 4

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    Now, now, I don't hate them.

    I just want them marginalized, traumatized, or vaporized if they're trying to get involved with the Rebellion.
     
  12. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Technically Starkiller isn't a Jedi.
     
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  13. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No, he's a Mandalorian.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Interesting. I like Jeff Bridges as Booster

    I vaguely recall Union casting a few characters - Tommy Lee Jones as (I think) Janson, Bruce Willis as Kam Solusar (the resemblances at least do look intentional) - any thoughts?
     
  16. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Steve Buscemi as Some Guy. Don't forget Steve Buscemi as Some Guy. And Jack Nicholson as Some Other Guy.
     
  17. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Bruce Campbell is Talon Karrde. There is no other option.
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    IT WAS PREORDAINED
     
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  18. Contessa

    Contessa Jedi Master star 3

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    A bunch of white people and a furry companion. Seems like legit Star Wars to me.
     
  19. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    He's not a companion! He's a MASTERMIND! Don't diss the Gryph!
     
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  20. sharkymcshark

    sharkymcshark Jedi Knight star 3

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    [​IMG]

    Season 2 Blackadder
     
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  21. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Ok, fine, who's Baldrick?
     
  22. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Jello speaketh truth to power, and power respondeth.
    1. Eleven-ThirtyEight@eleventhirtyate 38m
      On Tuesday, Jay offered his thoughts on @JamesSACorey's Honor Among Thieves. #swearhat4ever http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2014/03/honor-among-thieves-blueprint-for-the-future-eu/ #SWEU
    2. @eleventhirtyate That Noghri slip made it past about a hundred eyes, sadly.
    Edit: oh, and then this happened:

    Jason Fry @jasoncfry
    .@eleventhirtyate You need to put Jay on timeout till he reads the Daley trilogy. As someone who appreciates character, he'll love it. #SWEU
     
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  23. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  24. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    hahaha, I really do just need to read the trilogy and then do a writeup on it.
     
  25. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    You'll need to find a copy first unless you opt for ebook version, it's out of print.