Amph END OF LINE: TRON, Uprising, Legacy & Ares

Many thanks again for your great work with the track order.

Rox - I haven't tried the digital download yet, so can't help there.

Watching Legacy again, I noticed that it doesn't have credits at the beginning of the movie a la Star Wars. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but back in the day there was talk about the academy snubbing GL and SW because he refused to incorporate credits at the beginning of the movies. If true, it might explain Legacy's snubs for score and special effects.

 

I find that hard to believe. Lots of movies these days have most or all their titles at the end and some some of those movies have even won Academy Awards. Lord of the Rings did that and so did Children of Men.

 

So, thanks to T2Q, I was updating the previous movie order from a few months ago, and am torn between where to put Sunrise.

20) Derezzed
21) Fall
22) Sea of Simulation (launch of the sailer and Quorra's repair)
23) Sunrise Prelude (bonus track) (during Quorra's recounting of Flynn saving her and the discussion of the sun)
24) Rectifier
25) Disc Wars
26) C.L.U.
27) Arrival
28) Flynn Lives
29) TRON Legacy (End Titles)
30) Solar Sailer
31) Finale

or

20) Derezzed
21) Fall
22) Sea of Simulation (launch of the sailer and Quorra's repair)
23) Rectifier
24) Disc Wars
25) C.L.U.
26) Arrival
27) Flynn Lives
28) Sunrise Prelude
29) TRON Legacy (End Titles)
30) Solar Sailer
31) Finale

It sounds great in both places where it is used in the movie. It is a great bridge between Sea and Rectifier, but it is also a perfect lead into the end titles.

 

After looping the sections and listening to it over and over, I agree with you. I'm going to put sunrise after sea.

Thanks again for all of your help.

Now if only the movie had a freaking dvd commentary.

 

Yes, finally got my Tron Blu-ray, and man does it look amazing! Oh well, guess that's Amazon's free shipping for you. Hm, the disc case looks nice, but its kind of hard to take the discs out. Oh well, its still a nice looking item, and if there's ever another edition with commentary on it then I can get that and put this on a shelf.

So I watched the Next Day feature, put in the codes listed, but just curious if any others have been discovered by now? The rumored Quorra one is probably too much, compared to just Sam's Flynn Lives statement. I remember watching Tron occasionally on TV every now and then, and 80s' Disney movies were always so... different. Not in a bad way, or necessarily good way, but it was a nice change. By the way, has anyone bothered to get that Tron Reconfigured soundtrack? From the samples sounds like its just remixes of Daft Punk's music. Some aren't bad, but don't really see it as necessary.

 

I don't remember if this was brought up before, but it's something I've been thinking about since my 2nd theater viewing. CLU's "page to Alan" idea could've screwed his own plans up a lot quicker had Alan actually responded instead of Sam. Think about the outcome if Rinzler would've encountered Alan-One instead of Sam. I'm pretty sure he would have flipped back to Tron pretty quickly.

 

Its kind of an interesting idea, that if Tronzler actually met his User that would awaken his memories earlier. Although Alan probably wouldn't have survived the games at all to meet Rinzler so that's another problem. Not to mention that Alan didn't really know about the Grid at all. Sam knew it from old childhood stories Kevin told him, but doesn't sound like any of Kevin's other friends ever found out (like during the Flynn lives bonus they never knew why Flynn started calling them by their program names). And even if Tron remembered, well, Tron is probably the most skilled warrior on the Grid, but Clu still has more power and strength, so it probably wouldn't have ended well. Or maybe in Flynn's hidden office Alan would've recognized the laser as an old project his girlfriend (wait, I think he got married to Lora?) had been working on and wouldn't have turned it on. Its an interesting idea, but there are many, many different directions the story could've gone, although then that's getting into the realm of fanfic.

Not sure there would've been a "Where were you?" given that Tron's probably been out of contact with Alan for a long while as Tron city was on an isolated server that Alan never accessed. In the Betrayal prequel comic Tron was busy building the city and defending it from random bugs without any mention of Alan-1 (I think).

The page to Alan's pager (which he still had after all these years) could've been deliberate, or it could've just been random. Mainly it was probably just an attempt to change the stalemate Clu and Flynn were stuck in. Clu ruled the system, and was converting programs into his army, but without Flynn's disc, he was still trapped in the system.

I so love subtitles, I could never hear what Flynn and Tron had been talking about before Clu stages his coup. Apparently Flynn always cut his exit close, but then that fits his personality, and normally he should've still made it as long as he didn't lose complete track of time.

 

I think Alan knew about the grid, just not the isolated server that Flynn used for his expirement. there were toys, pillow cases, video games, etc. "in-universe" that dealt with Tron and the grid afterall. Alan certainly knew why he was called Tron.

I think CLU was expecting Alan to show up on the grid and had the guards looking for him when the portal lit up. I'm sure if they found someone that looked like an older Tron they would've brought him to CLU instead of assigning him to the games. Remember, that Sam was unidentifiable and is assigned to the games.

 

So you don't think that Kevin told Alan and Lora what happened to him while they were at Encom breaking into the system? Interesting...

 

Yeah I'm pretty sure Flynn never told Alan about the Grid, or about how their programs look just like their Users. Guess after Flynn took over at Encom, it just became another of his quirks to call them by their program names. Although the others were probably envious that Alan's program became the star of those games and merchandise. When they were talking at the end of the Next Day, there was a comment along those lines.

I'm still curious how much Alan knows. He definitely didn't know about the Grid before, but maybe Sam will tell him, especially if he really is going to change the world, he could use Alan's help (Sam might be the majority stockholder, but Alan seemed like the last of the old crew holding out at Encom) to do that, not to mention explaining where the new girl came from. If there ever is another movie, they already have a young Tron face too. The technology still isn't perfect, but I thought the young face worked mostly well. At the end when he was talking, he could've simply been happy that after several decades "they've taken back the company", which is partially why they don't need the Flynn Lives underground movement anymore, not to mention that Sam has grown up too.

 

Saw the movie-excellent-and one thing that stood out for me. It's a good thing programs don't show blood and guts, or else this would've earned an easy R. During the chase scene with the light jets and one of CLU's guards takes a headshot from the cannons. Or during the Games where one program gets his head sliced off.

 

Not very impressive.
Looks more like a proof-of-concept than a movie teaser/trailer.
Also, why the anime look faces? Is the next installment going to be a cartoon?