Senate Ender Sigh's Srs Biz lol @ Murica Thread

That's a reasoned response, which does not seem at all sketchy and covering up uncomfortable insecurities and a lack of any real analysis. You have caused me to reconsider my position.

 

Lol, yeah insecurities. Have you ever watched interviews with Obama and noticed his lecturing rants that he's fond of going on? I don't share your observation of humility, but I guess if you consider old domestic issues like the cop shaming leading to the beer summit, with some ***** *** beer choice by Our Prestigious Leader, several rounds of golf, dispatching the Justice Dept to Ferguson to do more cop shaming, or reminding everyone several times that "I know, because I won." a form of humility, then sure. Super humble.

 

Hah, really? Personal opinion and all but yeah the country seems pretty great. However, we all want to travel and gain cultural exposure. Maybe you could explain hpw the opposite viewpoint gains traction, that we all suck before these foreign Gods of cultural might and know how?

 

I think the issue many of these chest-thumping, right wing types take with Mr Obama boils down to this - he's the president who represents what America is, not what America wants to be.

 

We all know how police are the real oppressed folk in this country.

 

Part of the transition was based on not provoking the FSU states, a trend which the right wingers in public discourse and the GOP have roundly ignored. So, yes, look how silly Obama is for not prodding the bear as Dubya heroically did!

 

Or a son who bravely fought, like so many of his generation, in Vietnam from the Air National Guard.

Lucky he never had the belligerent audacity to criticise any other Vietnam vets.

 

I'm just not sure how you can even posit the question of nationalistic pride, when I would assume that each country has citizens that overwhelmingly hold a favorable opinion of their country, and 2) you ask a forum chock full of apologists and detractors? It's like you pose the question to the people least willing to defend Amerrica, and weirdly enough even those liberal types take issue with it In regards to travel. To borrow a quote from anakinfansince1983 "but but but but but....".... You would think that the country solely responsible for AGW would get a little more credit In your worldview.

I will say once again, I would love to visit Oz, if only to taste your half hearted attempt at beer and rock n roll. Maybe one day you guys will have something more world renowned other than ACDC, Fosters, and that poor lass the Crocodile Hunter. Go #teamOZ.

 

The main problem I have with American Exceptionalism is the people who espouse it. Okay, maybe you believe America is special and better than all the other countries in the world. But more likely, you fear that this isn't the case; because if you really just believed it, would you have such a big chip on your shoulder? And, if America is in some way special, you don't win anything by being a complete tool about it.

 

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I love how this just also swipes at the post above it.

Rogue, aka Rouge, you're the best.

EDIT: and you too, anakinfansince1983

 

Also the Crocodile Hunter is a man, not a woman.

 

I think he's mistaken the word apologist to mean someone who apologizes to the world for America's actions. It's a common accusation made by right-wingers.

 

Was a man.

He's very dead now.

 

Your last paragraph illustrates the issue - you can't acknowledges, or even name, the significant achievements of other nations.

 

You can't argue with the fact that he kept Dallas and Houston completely safe from the Viet Cong.

 

That's true, and in doing so earned Dan Fogarty's respect and was thus immortalised in a reverential Creedence song.

 

That's why they call it acting.

 

American exceptionalism would be fine if people only took it in small doses. Instead we have these ultraconservatives who are arrogant jack***es and demand that our leaders act like arrogant jack***es. This kind of juvenile chest-thumping is what has caused America's image to decline, not Obama's "apologizing".