Amph Engage! The Star Trek: TNG General Discussion

Discussion in 'Community' started by Constant_shadow, Jan 3, 2006.

  1. Everton Chosen One

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    Yeah. Another reason why getting a proper 'actor' in the captain's role was far more of a boon than they realised when they initially hired him way back when.
  2. RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost

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    Jul 2, 2003
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    Jellico was a damned fine captain. He knew how to handle the Cardassians, and it's a shame the crew didn't get it.

    As for Patrick Stewart... 'THERE...ARE...FOUR...LIGHTS!!!!!!!!' 'Nuff said.
  3. ZebulaNebula Force Ghost

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    Feb 10, 2005
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    Jellico reminded me a bit of John Wayne for some stupid reason. One of those characters I always wanted to see more of. There were quite a few TNG characters like that, guest, recurring or almost-regulars.

    Oh, did Tasha Yar's funeral make anyone else in here cry?
  4. Everton Chosen One

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    No need to blacken that out. TNG is akin to an historical document in sci-fi. ;)

    Her funeral was very touching, particularly what she said about Data. However if I had a couple of criticisms they'd be 1) that they hadn't used quite such a cheesy backdrop and 2) that she had been allowed to live through the first season and been taken out midway through season two. We didn't really get a good enough chance to know her IMO, and so her death wasn't as wrenching as it might well have been.
  5. ZebulaNebula Force Ghost

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    My brother is hypersensitive to spoilers(as in smacks me for spoiling an event 30 seconds before it happens onscreen), so I'm often overcautious with the blackout. And yeah, the backdrop was kinda cheesy; the Genesis planet woulda been cool, IMHO. And her dying in a season 2/3 cliffhanger would've been best. As would a more poignant end.
  6. ObiWanCon Force Ghost

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    Apr 15, 2004
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    Denise Crosby (Tasha) wanted out of the series quickly that's why it happened when it did of course she regretted quitting a couple of years later that's why she came up with Tasha's Romulan daughter idea after Yesterdays Enterprise.
  7. TheProphetOfSullust Force Ghost

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    Dec 10, 2003
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    That was Crosby's idea? I didn't know that. Source?
  8. aPPmaSTer Force Ghost

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    "No. They made the decision to kill Data, and even if one doesn't like the way he went (I happen to) to bring him back would devalue his death and devalue Nemesis even more."

    I don't think it would have that effect at all because look at ST2: Spock dies but is resurrected in ST3, yet ST2 is regarded by many as one of the best Sci-fi movies of all time. I don't get what the point was of killing Data though. And the exectuion could have been a lot better too, like him giving some kind of last statement toward humanity or whatever before going to his doom.
  9. ComicDiva Jedi Master

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    Oct 27, 2004
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    I never really cared for Tasha Yar, except in that eppie where we are presemted with a different timeline in which she's still alive and she willingly sacrifices herself. That was a good storyline, and even though she quit the show, I'm glad she is stil proud of being part of Star Trek lore.

    My favourite episode is the Robin Hood one. It was just so silly. :)

    Worf: Sir, I protest. I am NOT a merry man!
  10. Everton Chosen One

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    I reckon the writers would've had an office party to celebrate when they came up with that line of dialogue. A true classic.
  11. ObiWanCon Force Ghost

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    Everton Denise Crosby talks about it on the season 5 DVD extras how she went to the producers with the idea you should check out the DVD extras I rented them from the net there's some interesting things on them.
  12. Everton Chosen One

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    Jul 18, 2003
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    Yeah I can rent TNG from my local rental shop. I might well do that. :cool:
  13. RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost

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    I'm missing season 4 from TNG, the one season I truly want. BOBT part 2! I can't find it anywhere around, and I don't trust online shopping, so I'm stuck.
  14. ZebulaNebula Force Ghost

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    Feb 10, 2005
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    If you know where to look, you can find old VHS copies for a buck or two. And Season 4 was my favorite, followed up closely by Season 7.
  15. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    I got a few of the seasons on eBay, the rest from Amazon or Barnes & Noble. Buying things online is great. Many of the sellers of used dvds on eBay are small dealers who have quite a bit of positive feedback, so your risk factor is very small.
  16. Juliet316 Chosen One

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    I own both parts of BOBW on VHS.:cool:
  17. Funk-E Force Ghost

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    Sep 11, 2003
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    I may have already mentioned this, but it bears repeating:

    I have ST:TNG on LASERDISC, baybee.
  18. Darth_Ignant Jedi Youngling

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    Oct 24, 2001
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    "No. They made the decision to kill Data, and even if one doesn't like the way he went (I happen to) to bring him back would devalue his death and devalue Nemesis even more. "

    Haha, they didn't kill Data, they transferred him. They'd be too scared to make sucha bold move.
  19. Everton Chosen One

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    Jul 18, 2003
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    Yes they transferred him, and on the surface they bottled out in the same way they bottled out with Kirk. But the message I get from Nemesis is that two beings can have the same building blocks but their differnet circumstances can forever make them different people. Shinzon could never become Picard, and B4 could never become Data. So whilst Data's memories and experiences are contained within B4, B4 himself cannot rise to the challenge of fulfilling them. He's a prototype, and so cannot deal with all of Data's being.

    But that's only the way I see it. :(

    Of course it's possible that B4 might suddenly become a 'child prodigy' and assimilate everything without a problem, but if they do decide to go that route I'll be most disappointed.
  20. Darth_Ignant Jedi Youngling

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    Oct 24, 2001
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    At most he'd be a Data who acts slightly different. it's very weak. But, that whole film was weak. Honestly, TNG is my favourite TV show of all time, and that film made me angry. It's the only one that ever has.
  21. Everton Chosen One

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    Jul 18, 2003
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    Insurrection?

    I thought that was a disaster.


    Plus, I'd reckon if they do decide to bring Data back it won't be in half measures.
  22. Darth_Ignant Jedi Youngling

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    Oct 24, 2001
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    Yes, Insurrection. While watching it I was thinking...has this writer ever seen these characters before? I'd need to watch it again to really give examples, but I refuse to do so.

    Oh, as as for favourite 2 parter, I'll go for "All Good Things..." It was perfect to me. The final scene, around the poker table still brings a lump to my throat.
  23. Everton Chosen One

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    Jul 18, 2003
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    In that scene I always wonder whether, when Picard says he was quite the card player in his youth, if Riker winks at another character (Troi or Geordi) or Jonathan Frakes winks at the audience.
  24. Darth_Ignant Jedi Youngling

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    Oct 24, 2001
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    a little from column a, a little from column b.
  25. LemmingLord Jedi Master

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    Apr 28, 2005
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    I believe my favorite Patrick Stewart Picard perpformance was in the pilot to DS9 where Picard gives Commander Sisko his orders and after sensing some animosity Picard asks Sisko if they've met before. Sisko says, "yes sir, in battle..." and we get to see the real impact the events of best of both worlds had for the captain.