English Writting on Death Star

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  1. WhiskeyGold Force Ghost

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    I have noticed that as Obi-wan turns off the tracked beam you can see writing. Its in english. Is this the only time we see english writting on Star Wars?
  2. AdamBertocci Manager

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    We also see some numerals (not "English" per se, but definitely Earthy) in ANH.

    I hate that English writing on the Death Star so, so much. If they don't replace it in the UEs, I am liable to hurl my DVD player through the television screen.



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  3. Scrounger Jedi Youngling

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    I can't remember what is written on that panel. Could some refresh my mind please?
  4. Vanthorne_OX Jedi Knight

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    I think you see the words "Tractor Beam" during the close-up when Obi-Wan powers down the Tractor Beam.

    I just think of it as Basic. That's what they speak, so why can't it be what they write?
  5. AdamBertocci Manager

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  6. La_Capitan Jedi Knight

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    you can also make out the letters 94 when everyone is going to docking bay 94. its etched into the wall and hard to see, but it is definatly there.

    I have no problem with there being english words written.
  7. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    With a galactic society of millions of languages, it's not that big a stretch that one happens to resemble english... [face_batting]
  8. Dark_Father Jedi Knight

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    The rebels must use something similar to the English language also since they call the X-Wing, Y-Wing and B-Wing those names because they look like the letters in some fashion.
  9. Gregatron Jedi Knight

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    It serves as a plot point. Without the writing, we'd need subtititles or dialogue to fully understand what he's doing.
  10. zombie Force Ghost

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    i dont see the problem. People speak in english, so why wouldnt they spell in english as well?
  11. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling

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    They spell in a different manner. Remember the code text from ROTJ when they're scanning the shuttle? Those are Aurebesh letters.
  12. Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus

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    ATTENTION LUCAS.

    FIX IT.


    NO! DON'T RUIN OUR MOVIES! :p
  13. jimkk29 Jedi Master

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    Interesting! I hadn't noticed that before! ;)
  14. Angel_Blue01 Jedi Knight

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    Its well known that these were added on the studio's suggestion, to make it obvious what that control was. George was hesitant, but he did it anyway.

    I agree, it'd be nice to see it in real Basic (NOT "Aurebesh"!). Maybe it'll be a bonus (something) on the DVD...

    We already know that they use "Arabic" (actually Hindu, passed through the Arabs) numerals, as seen in Luke's macrobinoculars, and in the starfighters' targeting scopes.
  15. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling

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    Um, "real Basic" is Aurebesh.
  16. Angel_Blue01 Jedi Knight

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    No!

    Comnpare the writing on the DS screens in ROTJ to the Aurebesh code.

    In fact, here's a screenshot:

    [image=http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/black/text_202.jpg]

    The characters are "Aurebesh".

    But the existing English to Aurebesh doesn't make any real words!

    Try it yourself!
  17. AdamBertocci Manager

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    I agree with Angel on this issue... sort of.

    Aurebesh isn't a language, just a writing system. While that screenshot may mean nothing in English, that may mean something in Basic.

    Take Russian, for example. They have different letters than us.

    To spell "cat" as an American would say it with Russian letters, I'd use KT.

    To spell the Russian word for cat, I'd use KO(SH)KA.

    In that Aurebesh picture you posted, the first four blue letters seem to be FBNE (right? my Aurebesh is a bit rusty). In English, that may not mean anything, but in Basic, maybe that means "spaceship".

    Clear as mud? :)


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  18. Angel_Blue01 Jedi Knight

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    My question (I doubt anyonw here knows the answer) is how did the ILM/LucasFilms people choose to form that sentence?

    WEG's Aurebesh doesn't work.

    What does?
  19. AdamBertocci Manager

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    They just wrote some stuff that looked cool. That's all.

    WEG then made that little letter correspondence chart so we could write cool code messages to our friends.

    (EDIT: If you want an 'in-universe answer' as opposed to a 'moviemaking decision answer', I suggest you review my last post.)



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  20. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling

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    But the existing English to Aurebesh doesn't make any real words!

    That's because the Aurebesh text on those computer screens is the shuttle's security code. If you translate it, all you get is gibberish.
  21. gezvader28 Force Ghost

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    Well what about the screen text that comes up when R2 is talking to Luke, eg: in ESB on the way to Dagobah; I assume the computer is translating R2's beeps into 'Basic'; is Basic the same as this Aurebesh (sp?) ?

    I don't mind the English on the death star, if Lucas hated it he'd have taken it out in the SE.

    gez
  22. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling

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    The screen text in Luke's X-wing is too small to determine what he's saying.

    On the other hand, on Anakin's N-1 screen in TPM, Artoo says "Anakin, turn this ship around and go home right away," all in Aurebesh.
  23. Mr_Sarcasm Jedi Knight

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    You think the Tractor-Beam blunder is bad?

    Check out the truth-"syringe" that vader uses when interrogating Leia. Not only does it look like it was directly lifted from a Hospital and have English numbers, but it even looks like it may have a "Manufactured in..." block of writing on it.
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