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English Writting on Death Star

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by WhiskeyGold, Apr 21, 2003.

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  1. WhiskeyGold

    WhiskeyGold Jedi Master star 4

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    I have noticed that as Obi-wan turns off the tracked beam you can see writing. Its in english. Is this the only time we see english writting on Star Wars?
     
  2. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We also see some numerals (not "English" per se, but definitely Earthy) in ANH.

    I hate that English writing on the Death Star so, so much. If they don't replace it in the UEs, I am liable to hurl my DVD player through the television screen.



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  3. Scrounger

    Scrounger Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I can't remember what is written on that panel. Could some refresh my mind please?
     
  4. Vanthorne_OX

    Vanthorne_OX Jedi Master star 3

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    I think you see the words "Tractor Beam" during the close-up when Obi-Wan powers down the Tractor Beam.

    I just think of it as Basic. That's what they speak, so why can't it be what they write?
     
  5. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well... [link=http://www.decipher.com/starwars/cardlists/anewhope/light/large/outofcommissionwb.html]here's the image.[/link]

    ATTENTION LUCAS.

    FIX IT.



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  6. La_Capitan

    La_Capitan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    you can also make out the letters 94 when everyone is going to docking bay 94. its etched into the wall and hard to see, but it is definatly there.

    I have no problem with there being english words written.
     
  7. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    With a galactic society of millions of languages, it's not that big a stretch that one happens to resemble english... [face_batting]
     
  8. Dark_Father

    Dark_Father Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The rebels must use something similar to the English language also since they call the X-Wing, Y-Wing and B-Wing those names because they look like the letters in some fashion.
     
  9. Gregatron

    Gregatron Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It serves as a plot point. Without the writing, we'd need subtititles or dialogue to fully understand what he's doing.
     
  10. zombie

    zombie Jedi Master star 4

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    i dont see the problem. People speak in english, so why wouldnt they spell in english as well?
     
  11. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    They spell in a different manner. Remember the code text from ROTJ when they're scanning the shuttle? Those are Aurebesh letters.
     
  12. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ATTENTION LUCAS.

    FIX IT.


    NO! DON'T RUIN OUR MOVIES! :p
     
  13. jimkk29

    jimkk29 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Interesting! I hadn't noticed that before! ;)
     
  14. Angel_Blue01

    Angel_Blue01 Jedi Master star 2

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    Its well known that these were added on the studio's suggestion, to make it obvious what that control was. George was hesitant, but he did it anyway.

    I agree, it'd be nice to see it in real Basic (NOT "Aurebesh"!). Maybe it'll be a bonus (something) on the DVD...

    We already know that they use "Arabic" (actually Hindu, passed through the Arabs) numerals, as seen in Luke's macrobinoculars, and in the starfighters' targeting scopes.
     
  15. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Um, "real Basic" is Aurebesh.
     
  16. Angel_Blue01

    Angel_Blue01 Jedi Master star 2

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    No!

    Comnpare the writing on the DS screens in ROTJ to the Aurebesh code.

    In fact, here's a screenshot:

    [image=http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/black/text_202.jpg]

    The characters are "Aurebesh".

    But the existing English to Aurebesh doesn't make any real words!

    Try it yourself!
     
  17. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with Angel on this issue... sort of.

    Aurebesh isn't a language, just a writing system. While that screenshot may mean nothing in English, that may mean something in Basic.

    Take Russian, for example. They have different letters than us.

    To spell "cat" as an American would say it with Russian letters, I'd use KT.

    To spell the Russian word for cat, I'd use KO(SH)KA.

    In that Aurebesh picture you posted, the first four blue letters seem to be FBNE (right? my Aurebesh is a bit rusty). In English, that may not mean anything, but in Basic, maybe that means "spaceship".

    Clear as mud? :)


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  18. Angel_Blue01

    Angel_Blue01 Jedi Master star 2

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    My question (I doubt anyonw here knows the answer) is how did the ILM/LucasFilms people choose to form that sentence?

    WEG's Aurebesh doesn't work.

    What does?
     
  19. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They just wrote some stuff that looked cool. That's all.

    WEG then made that little letter correspondence chart so we could write cool code messages to our friends.

    (EDIT: If you want an 'in-universe answer' as opposed to a 'moviemaking decision answer', I suggest you review my last post.)



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  20. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    But the existing English to Aurebesh doesn't make any real words!

    That's because the Aurebesh text on those computer screens is the shuttle's security code. If you translate it, all you get is gibberish.
     
  21. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well what about the screen text that comes up when R2 is talking to Luke, eg: in ESB on the way to Dagobah; I assume the computer is translating R2's beeps into 'Basic'; is Basic the same as this Aurebesh (sp?) ?

    I don't mind the English on the death star, if Lucas hated it he'd have taken it out in the SE.

    gez
     
  22. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    The screen text in Luke's X-wing is too small to determine what he's saying.

    On the other hand, on Anakin's N-1 screen in TPM, Artoo says "Anakin, turn this ship around and go home right away," all in Aurebesh.
     
  23. Mr_Sarcasm

    Mr_Sarcasm Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You think the Tractor-Beam blunder is bad?

    Check out the truth-"syringe" that vader uses when interrogating Leia. Not only does it look like it was directly lifted from a Hospital and have English numbers, but it even looks like it may have a "Manufactured in..." block of writing on it.
     
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