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Speculation Episode 7 Special effects: What do you expect/hope for?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Lee_, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. Saurion-Fett

    Saurion-Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I am watching it now I watched I to VI its just midnight here now....hello tuesday.....work in 6hrs
     
  2. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You in NZ Saurion?
     
  3. Saurion-Fett

    Saurion-Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Y
    Yep...and you?
     
  4. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The mainland....LOL Sydney. I was in NZ last week.
     
  5. Echo-07

    Echo-07 Jedi Master star 4

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    More sets and less green screen. Less CGI characters and more makeup FX. Old school.
     
  6. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    Woo! Fellow Aussies.....i think!
     
  7. Saurion-Fett

    Saurion-Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Woo! Fellow Aussies.....i think![/quote] I might be moving over like every other Kiwi
     
  8. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yep us Aussies are a bit SW crazy.
     
  9. Saurion-Fett

    Saurion-Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Could be Filmed in Aus or NZ our Film industries are booming
     
  10. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    Kiwi Aussie, it matters not. Glad to meet ya!
     
  11. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    well, they did film the prequels out here, so its not that much of a stretch,
     
  12. Saurion-Fett

    Saurion-Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Same here guys...nice to meet both of ya
     
  13. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No chance of it happening in Australia this time round, our dollar is worth US$1.05, although NZ might be in with a shout?
     
  14. Saurion-Fett

    Saurion-Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Our PM just flew over to meet with studio heads last month. the tax breaks here are crazy for film.
    james cameron has moved here to live
     
  15. spicer

    spicer Jedi Master star 4

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    The best example imo is Prometheus. The movie looks amazing, and if you've seen "the making of" documentary, you know they used a LOT of practical effects and less CG than most sci-fi movies today. If they go this way with ep7, I am sure it will be incredible.
     
  16. ObiAlKenobi

    ObiAlKenobi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Less CGI for sure. Some real sets please.
     
  17. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Agreed. It looked so perfectly futuristic. I hope they mix it up like that in Episode 7, and do that good of a job.
     
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  18. LordMortis315

    LordMortis315 Jedi Knight star 4

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    Nothing but the best.
     
  19. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Dark Lord of the WNU, CT, and Saga Forums star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Nothing that takes away or overshadows the storyline
     
  20. ThetaSigma

    ThetaSigma Jedi Youngling

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    More practical elements for sure. Big sets and less blue/green screen, as everyone has already said. The screen should be a tool, not a set replacement. It would also be nice if they used light up props for the lightsabers, so that they actually cast light, rather than adding light-casting later, as they did for RotS. This would also work best on a complete set.
     
  21. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They didn't do that for the OT. They reflected light but not emit it.
     
  22. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 8

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    CGI can be brilliant, but sometimes ILM's stuff can look a bit cheap. They really need to work on that.

    Take some pages out of WETA's book, Gollum looked amazing and made Yoda look like crap. Puppet Yoda looked far more real.
     
  23. Dranem

    Dranem JCF Banner Contest Winner star 1 VIP - Game Winner

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    I think the only thing I'd like to see a bit more of is real world settings for things like outdoor battles (like Hoth, Endor, etc.). Other than that, I don't think people realize how many models and practical effects were used in the prequels. Check out the Star Wars Chronicles: Prequel Book and see for yourself how much was not computer generated. I think the prequel that came closest to this looking back was The Phantom Menace by doing things like using the palace in Italy as a stand-in for the Queens palace on Naboo, and of course going back to Tunisia. And aside from a few glaring examples, I was never really bothered by the green scene sets in the prequels. You have to remember that whether it was a matte painting back in the day or a digital one now, a lot of work goes into creating those backgrounds and mostly just the foreground elements were built. The way some people talk you'd think that they actually went to a gas giant planet back in 1979 to film the Cloud City scenes.

    The key word here is balance. There are times when digital effects combine with practical ones that create a truly magical look. To this day, I think Jurassic Park was the one to do it the best. Think of how they combined an animatronic T-Rex for closeup shots with the CG version for things like when it was running. It was executed near flawlessly and really kept the effect believable.
     
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  24. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 8

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    The difficulty is acting when there is nothing there, that is a big problem with the PT.

    With a show like Dr Who you had enemies such as Daleks who were really on set and spoke in the actual voices and moved around, much easier to act with something like that interacting with you. Trying to react to a tennis ball on a stick is much harder. Difficult to be afraid of a creature if the creature is invisible and you don't know what it looks like.

    At least in JP Sam Neill actually had a T-Rex breathing in his face and the kids could see it peering into the car.
     
  25. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Puppet Yoda couldn't fight. Besides, everyone wanted the puppet in TPM to be replaced by the digital Yoda.