Episode III Characters

CHA-CHING, Wizards has posted official stats for Emporer Palpatine, Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader), and General Grievous!

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20050714a

 

whoah sweet find! nice one

 

Me want Annihilator. That is da big dakka

 

not bad stats. Weapon Mastery (Devastating Strike, 10/day) really gives Anakin a chance against anybody. although i just pitted Anakin Skywalker vs Palpatine and it lasted 6 rounds, (with Anakin down for the count). The stats make Jerecs & Katarns stats look as OTT as they are.question are Jerecs stats after he has increased his power with the valley?

 

Whats up with Grievous' attack modifiers for multible weapons? They don't make any sense to me!

He has +19/+14/+9 with one lightsaber right?

He has the Multidexterity and Multible weapon Fighting feats.

What would his attack bonus' be with two and four lightsabers?

 

not bad stats. Weapon Mastery (Devastating Strike, 10/day) really gives Anakin a chance against anybody. although i just pitted Anakin Skywalker vs Palpatine and it lasted 6 rounds, (with Anakin down for the count). The stats make Jerecs & Katarns stats look as OTT as they are.question are Jerecs stats after he has increased his power with the valley?


I love the stats too. I have now redone Darth Vader from the OT to Match Anakins here. I did however increase Anakin's Force Points a bit, before the suit. And substituted Improved Critical for Power Attack. Think it works better for Anakin.
Palpatine is VERY powerful here... And I love it They fit him so well. I love the revised Force Skills and his saber stats are dead on.

To answer your question about Jerec, I think it is supposed to be before his increased might. (for the post-power drain stats of Jerec is use his old Force Skills from the Dark Side Sourcebook, which you can find in the "Dark Jedi Jerec" thread.

 

I'm not thrilled with the new greivous stats. The new anakin ones were sweet. I'm looking foreward to seeing obi-wan's stats.

 

Wow....

Hmmm, now i've something for use against my players

 

Awww, crap...

 

Be afraid. Be very afraid!

 

I don?t understand what criteria WOTC use when it comes to dishing out Force points can anyone help, like for some reason Qu Rahn had loads of them. If they work it out through accomplishments then why has Anakin only gained 1 force point over the clone wars? In my opinion Anakin should have 15 Force points after all not only is he the chosen one (created by the force) but he is also the greatest hero of the clone wars.

I also think Anakin requires a special bonus when fighting sith.

Also I was very glad that Anakin piloting skills were sorted out.

 

i don't think he should get a special bonus for fighting Sith, if anything he should later pick up favoured enemy - jedi or favoured enemy - force adept.

The reason his Force point level is so low is because he's simply had to use so many in the clone wars, which is just why he is so famous.

 

I agree with Jedi_Matt here. First I thought "What???" when I saw he only had 8, but then I started thinking about it. He would probably have something like 12-15 or higher if he hadn't used so many in the wars.

 

Great stuff! The WOTC crew did an excellent job!

 

I see that Mace has gone up a level. Is Mace now the second best lightsaber duelist in the history (maybe third I cant remember what Corran Horns got) of the starwars galaxy behind Malak.

 

This is awesome. Now if they'd only start reprinting the sourcebooks so I could screw with the stats so they lock in with my campaign.

 

Good stuff by wotc, but i would like to see their take on dooku.

 

These are infact very good stats.
Good job WotC!!!
Mace Windu is really powerful. On par with Sidious and Yoda now. I just couldn't see how his stats from PotJ sourcebook ever had a chance
And Obi-Wans stats are so cool. Fit almost perfect with the ones in RCRB from II and IV.

Is Mace now the second best lightsaber duelist in the history (maybe third I cant remember what Corran Horns got) of the starwars galaxy behind Malak.


Corran Horn is nowhere near Mace or Malak. He has a +19 (3d8+1/19-20, lightsaber).
I've always thought the Malak stats were too over the top! Like they're taken directly out of the video game, where the characters are more powerful, without considering the other characters in the universe. He should be toned down to level 18 (or lower). Someone like Revan could be level 18-20, though.
In my book Mace, Palpatine and Yoda are the top dogs. At least the ones we see in the movies.
Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma and NJO Luke would be on par with them.

 

So if Revan is 18-20, what would the exile of KoToR 2 be?

 

Hmm... about the same I guess. Maybe lower.

 

How exactly is Obi-Wan in possession of a higher strength score than Anakin when the RotS novel went on about just how "physically powerful" Skywalker was? (Ok, I know it amounts to the same modifer but still...)

Having said that, I think think the stats are truer to the characters than the stuff WotC usually comes up with.

 

Having said that, I think think the stats are truer to the characters than the stuff WotC usually comes up with.

i agree with that, however I?m going off Anakins combat stats. The devastating strike isn?t proving to be all that great. Considering GL said he was on par with yoda, palps & Mace I think he deserves better stats, but yet again WOTC are restricted by there level based stats.

 

Obi-Wan (14th): Battlemind +8, Enhance Ability +7
Anakin (13th): Battlemind +11, Enhance Ability +7, plus his SQ, plus Devastating Strike

So Anakin's a level behind Obi-Wan and is decidedly better than him in combat, hence the physically powerful bit.

 

Is Mace now the second best lightsaber duelist in the history

I actually did a little research

Mace vs. Palpatine

Who is ultimately more powerful?
I used the new super cool official stats from Wizards of the Cost.
I "Battle hardened" both of them (battlemind, enhance ability, force defense ect. Each rolling 10 on every roll to get the average/typical result of their check) and compared the stats.


Windu

Defense: 32 (25 +4 Knight Defense, +2 Enhance Ability, +1 Dodge)
Vitality Points: 135
Lightsaber
Attack: +22/+17/+12/+7 (+5 Battlemind, -6 Fear)
Damage: 7d8+1
Critical: 18-20 (+2 to confirm)
Martial Arts
Attack: +19/+14/+9/+4 (+5 Battlemind, -6 Fear)
Damage: 2d4+1
Crititcal: 19-20
Special Qualities: Rapid Strike
Feint
Bluff: +12 (+9, +3 Empathy)
Sense Motive: +6 (+3, +3 Empathy)
Saving Throws
Fortitude: +14
Reflexes: +16 (+2 Enhance Ability)
Willpower: +21 (+6 Force Defense)
Force Points: 12
Feats: Combat Expertise, Mobility, Spring Attack
Force Skills: Force Strike +15, Move Object +15, Heal Self +7

vs.

Palpatine

Defense: 33 (25 +6 Master Defense, +2 Enhance Ability)
Vitality Points: 154
Lightsaber
Attack: +30/+25/+20/+15 (+3 Battlemind, +5 Sith Sorcery, +1 enemy bonus)
Damage: 6d8+1
Critical: 17-20
Force Lightning
Attack: +32/+27/+22/+17 (+2 Enhance Ability, +3 Battlemind, +5 Sith Sorcery, +1 enemy bonus)
Damage: 3d10
Crititcal: 20
Special Qualities: -
Feint
Bluff: +16 (+13, +3 Empathy)
Sense Motive: +13 (+10, +3 Empathy)
Saving Throws
Fortitude: +22 (+5 Sith Sorcery)
Reflexes: +29 (+2 Enhance Ability, +5 Sith Sorcery, +6 Force Defense)
Willpower: +21
Force Points: 9
Feats: Heroic Surge, Power Attack, Quick Draw, Force Mastery, Rage
Force Skills: Fear +12, Force Grip +17, Force Lightning +21, Force Strike +12, Heal Self +9, Move Object +17


To sum up:

Defense: Palpatine
Vitality Points: Palpatine
Lightsaber
Attack: Palpatine
Damage: Windu
Critical: Palpatine
Martial Arts/Force Lighting
Attack: Palpatine
Damage: Palpatine
Crititcal: Windu
Special Qualities: Windu
Feint
Bluff: Palpatine
Sense Motive: Palpatine
Saving Throws
Fortitude: Palpatine
Reflexes: Palpatine
Willpower: Palpatine
Force Points: Windu
Feats: Palpatine
Force Skills: Palpatine


Palpatine is clearly the more powerful of the two. But these are of cource their stats representing an average roll. Windu could have rolled higher and Palpatine lower and in turn affected the outcome.