Episode III End Credits music

As we all know, all the SW ''End Credits'' suites begin with a jumpy fanfare that then leads to a fast playing of the main theme and then presentations of the major themes of each film.

However, don't you think that the upbeat fanfare and main theme ''clashes'' with the tone when the finale music is pretty downbeat (e.g. AOTC, TESB). It fits perfect in the ANH and ROTJ endings because they end with a happy tone, but in AOTC in particular, it sounds out of place.

So, does anyone agree that for the first time it would be nice if the End Credits had a different beginning, starting with a more downbeat playing of a theme (in minor) that will blend better with the (expectedly) dark tone of the finale music (whatever that may be)

 

somebody once noticed that the very end of the credits are upbeat fanfare-things in the OT, but quiet fade-out-like things in the PT. Maybe that is enough for Williams.

I don't think and I don't hope that Williams will change the beginning of the end credits.

 

No.

It goes against the episodic nature of the SW films. The use of the Main Theme and Rebel Fanfare right as the end credits begin is the one constants (along with the SW Main Title) that spans all SW films and it wouldn't be the same if Ep III doesn't end in a similar way.

Plus, I think it's fine to end a dark SW film with the Main Title and Rebel Fanfare as there is always hope in the stories of SW, and that is what the "upbeat" end title music represents.

 

George Lucas has mentioned that certain musical elements of Star Wars are a set structure that he is stuck to following. The opening titles while the crawl is up then seguing into the actual score is one. The iris out at the end and the beginning of the End Titles with the Rebel fanfare and the Star Wars theme is also set in stone. This will not be deviated from for Episode III, I guarantee it. They will most likely do a downbeat quiet and possibly brooding ending to the End Titles, like TPM and AOTC.

 

It's just that on film, it seems weird (after a downbeat ending and morose accompanying music being treated to a cheery fanfare), and on CD it's worse.

On the AOTC CD in particular, you have a 10min+ track of very dark (by StarWars/Williams standards) music, and there are just 1,5 minutes of jumpy upbeat music in the middle. Doesn't this sound weird?

And yeah, I understand that the Main Theme at the beginning MUST be included to set the scene (it's always easy to FF anyway ), but the end credits could be altered a little to fit EP3's tone.

 

But the ending of AOTC is the wedding which is a somewhat upbeat thing. I think the end credits sound exactly as they should. Episode III will be no different and is said to end with hope anyway....

 

That probably depends on personal opinion. The wedding music doesn't sound upbeat. It has a ''yeah, they got married, but what's in store for them?'' and not a ''happily ever after'' feeling. Most reviews about the score said that the love theme is dark and bittersweet anyway, not happy like Han & Leia.

 

The beginning of the end titles with the sudden burst of the Star Wars theme always signifies to me, for every SW film, that I just had a fun time watching a movie.

I don't think any of the SW movies are completely dark and dreary as their sole nature. At the heart of each SW film, it is all about having a fun time at the movies.

And that is what the SW theme during the end titles means for me, and why I don't think it should be altered one bit.

 

I don't think it should be changed. Anything different from the traditional finale music would make that seem out of place.

I also don't think that it clashes with themes at the end of AOTC. All happy and upbeat, but then we see the other side of Anakin. There we get the darker, slowed themes at the end. The Imp. March at the very end is such an important symbol that AOTC is the beginning of Anakin's turn.

I don't think anything should be changed for Ep3.

 

I don't think any of the SW movies are completely dark and dreary as their sole nature. At the heart of each SW film, it is all about having a fun time at the movies.

The words ''dark'' and ''dreary'' aren't synonyms. Dark doesn't contradict the word ''fun''. Look around in the EP3 spoiler forum, many members say it will be a very dark film, and they love it for this.

 

I bet it`ll begin in a slow fashion,and escalate into a loud IM

 

Forget about the people in the Ep 3 forums... LUCAS says Episode III will be the darkest film in the saga and that many people might not like it for that reason...

Personally I am very much looking forward to it. As for a full out version of the IM in the End Titles, no thanks... we get enough of that in Empire. How about a concert arrangement of the Force theme once and for all?

 

I didn't say that the End Credits music should be the Imperial March, I just said that it should be less upbeat than the Rebel Fanfare, whatever theme he might want to use.

The Force theme fits the bill. It's heroic but still serious and contemplative. And yes, a concert arrangement is yet to be done I think.

 

In ESB, we get a bittersweet rendition of Han and Leia's theme, then cut to the jaunty fanfare.

Why no complaints about that, eh?

 

The fanfare used for the Iris Out will be identical. It fits fine and doesn't bother me at all. It's part of the structure of a Star Wars film. It will be exactly the same for Episode III.

 

Stri,my thoughts exactly.

 

It will be very dark

 

We can live with a tilt up instead of a tilt down after the opening crawl (atcually, it was quite cool)
but changing the buff-didldididldididldi-tatatataaaaaa-taaaaa at the iris-out into something else would just not fit, be a complete shock and... probably, hopefully/ thankfully, won't be done

 

buff-didldididldididldi-tatatataaaaaa-taaaaa

Maybe it's just me, but I think it's hilarious when people try to "type-hum" SW music.

But the funniest part is that I can totally hear the tune, just by reading what TwiLekJedi typed.

 

It's one of the best pieces of music, so it's not that hard to do it right

like DAAAA DAAAA DAAAA DAA DADAAA DAA DADAA

 

Yeah the IM is very recognizable. I remember the day before AOTC came out, when I was due to see it that night at midnight, I drove into the parking lot at work with the window down blaring the IM part of Dawn of the Empire. Got a lot of comments on my way in the door.

I still think the actual credits after the usual Rebel Fanfare and Main theme should be a somber concert arrangement of the Force theme.

 

strilo, I think that could be a good and likely way to do Ep III's end credits suite.

I just don't know what possible new theme could be composed for Ep III, and to make the Force theme the "centerpiece" theme of the film would do nicely, given the movie's potential content.

 

I still think the actual credits after the usual Rebel Fanfare and Main theme should be a somber concert arrangement of the Force theme.

And then the new EPIII theme following, maybe (or maybe the new theme first and THEN the Force theme). I just like End Credits with more than one themes (the TESB suite was maybe the most satisfying).

P.S. I hope the Rebel Fanfare occurs in the track in such a way that it's not required wizardry to edit it out for an mp3

 

TPM and RotJ SE are the easiest to edit out the end credits after Augie's Band and VicCeleb, right?
It must be, because I managed to do that

 

Here's what I envision...

Regular end credits beginning...

flowing into Imperial March....

flowing into Duel of the Fates...

flowing into a new piece, quiet but sad as the music ends.

And I start crying