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Discussion Episode VII without any kind of "Empire"--

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Praetorianer, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Praetorianer

    Praetorianer Jedi Padawan

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    Hello and greetings from Germany,

    i am new here and hope of a good time - sorry my english is not the best.

    For me the most important question is, will there be a kind of Stormtroopers and Tie Fighters in Episode VII

    It is hard to believe that there will be new Films without them...

    What do you think?
     
  2. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 6

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    If Ep 7 is 30 years after, I wouldn't expect to see TIEs. Those things were flimsy death traps even when they were brand new, so I doubt any survived for 3 decades. They've probably been replaced by newer designs. Hopefully, the new ones will look like they were developed from the better TIEs, like the interceptor.

    Stormtroopers? I expect the classic armor has gone the way of the TIE, but all SW movies have hordes of faceless minion soldiers. There ought to be someone to fill that role.

    Your English is fine. Just do your best and if we can't understand you we'll ask you. You'll probably discover some other Germans here who can help if you need it; I know we have a few.
     
  3. Graphic

    Graphic Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think there would be some of the old designs.
    I mean, the Falcon already existed in EP III and would be a very old Girl in VII.
    The Y-Wings are relicts from the Clone Wars and still in use during the dark times.
    Oldie but Goldie.

    so...

    im from Germany too! ;)
     
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  4. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    TPM, AOTC, and ROTS didn't have Stormtroopers or TIEs.
     
  5. HegoDamask

    HegoDamask Jedi Knight star 2

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    Well, I hope we see original Stormtroopers and TIEs etc, it will present the viewers with the feel of the Original Trilogy again.
    I think it would be interesting to see what they do with the Empire in VII I think that the Empire may still exist, but it will likely be crippled. I think that they will get more of a back seat role with a new villain. I think it would be interesting to see the Empire join up with the "New Republic" to deal with a new antagonist faction.
    I am pretty certain we will see Imperial Star Destroyers.
     
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  6. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    Awesome!
     
  7. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't want the story/plot to be sacrificed for Original Trilogy nostalgia.
     
  8. HegoDamask

    HegoDamask Jedi Knight star 2

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    Neither do I, and KK already stated it will be more focused on Story, but its also suggested they are going to try and emulate the feel of the OT. I think it is possible to have an excellent story while creating nostalgia to the OT. Having the original visual elements such as the Stormtroopers and Star Destroyers won't compromise the story.
     
  9. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Not sure if the Empire will still be around in the ST but I want to see stormtroopers, tie-fighters, star destroyers etc.
     
  10. TheManFromMortis

    TheManFromMortis Jedi Knight star 3

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    I think the Stormtrooper armour, Tie Fighter, Star Destroyer and other ship designs - apart from the Falcon - will have evolved somewhat. I can imagine seeing an old Stormtrooper helmet and body armour in a junk shop or on a scrapheap somewhere in the background of a scene as a nod to the original designs. Perhaps we might even see a derelict star destroyer somewhere, perhaps still in orbit around a planet 30 years after the end of RoTJ. There was a scene in TCW similar to that in which burned-out, derelict ships from a space battle were floating around in ghostly orbit long after the battle.
     
  11. darthfettus2015

    darthfettus2015 Jedi Knight star 3

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    i am convincved there will be some form of remnant of the Empire, at least to try and lure back the fans who found the PT unsatisfactory. I will be sad if some form of Stormtrooper of Tie Fighter dont apper. For me as a loyal sagaist, I would like to see them as I feel, even thirty years after they lost a major conflict the ideals would still remain. I have often wondered when Vader killed the sepratist leaders did the individual Trade Federation, banking clans and Commerce guilds all still exist and be as destructive as ever - I am sure they must have been as even the Sith would need the cash to make the operation work and they must have continued being fully fledged parts of the Empire and therefore would still exist.
     
  12. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the galaxy was "de-imperialized" following ROTJ just like Europe and Germany were "de-Nazi-ized" following WWII.
     
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  13. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    AOTC and ROTS had stormtroopers/clones and star destroyers, and the Jedi and clone fighters were a pre-cursor to both TIE's and X-wings.
     
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  14. QsAssistant

    QsAssistant Jedi Knight star 2

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    As much as I want to see Stormtroopers again, I highly doubt we'll see them or TIEs in Episode VII; we may get some variation of them. Having said that, I know we haven't seen the last of them. We do have Star Wars: Rebels, books, video games, and not to mention spin off movies.
     
  15. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    When there is a space battle I would love to see a Tie-Fighter or variant in the background. Give us that!
     
  16. darthfettus2015

    darthfettus2015 Jedi Knight star 3

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    i just want to hear one Tie Fighter scream in a cinema again.....once and id be happy
     
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  17. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Would the OT returning to theaters make you happy?
     
  18. darthfettus2015

    darthfettus2015 Jedi Knight star 3

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    only as a precusor to the 2015 release (as will surely happen) but the scream would be very different coming from a different perspective and in another time. we may get a new design, but the sound would be what i wanted to hear
     
  19. Darth Eddie

    Darth Eddie Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm sure we'll see starfighters with those funky sideways or bent wings and octagonal windshields that make a screaming sound as they fly. I'm reasonably sure that whatever political body in power will employ soldiers more-than-reminiscent to the design of stormtroopers or clones. However, in terms of actual TIE fighters and the like, whatever remains of the Galactic Empire will be rusted or in ruins by the time of Episode VII.

    I am holding out hope to see an Imperial Star Destroyer return in some form, preferably in spaceworthy shape, and at the command of somebody unsavory but not evil. But in speculative terms, the more specific the wish, the less likely it will come true. So I'm not holding out TOO MUCH hope.

    ...would still be cool though
     
  20. Darth slaughter

    Darth slaughter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Yes but look what happened to Germany right after the war. East and west Germany splitting down the middle!? A new Cold War begins.
    Star Wars does like to take influence from history an legends. I wonder if it shall do this again?
     
  21. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Neither East nor West Germany used Nazi stuff.
     
  22. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Wouldn't the New Republic take the ships left by the Empire and make them their own? I could see Star Destroyers in the hands of Jedi or something. Why scrap the ships?
     
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  23. JStepp

    JStepp Jedi Padawan star 2

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    3 decades is not a long time. Many militaries in the world use tech that is 30-40 years old. Just think of what happened after the Soviet Union fell.
     
  24. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Because they are symbols of evil.
     
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  25. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 6

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    That's truth. I know. Just a couple months before I retired in 2009, I was flying missions in Iraq in C-130s that were built in 1963. But the 130 is legendary for being tough, solid, and reliable, and it's supposed to avoid getting shot at. The TIE is legendary for blowing up if you look at it too hard, and it's supposed to go into combat and get shot at all the time. I doubt there are more than a few left after 3 decades of flight operations. While it is possible we'll see some obsolete TIEs flown by desperate people who can't get their hands on decent ships, I'm betting we won't see any in Ep 7.
     
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