A/V Episode VIII - THE LAST JEDI - Official Movie Discussion Thread

It was beautifully made.

 

George is probably just happy he's not subjected to "George Lucas raped my childhood" anymore. He *wanted* out because of the fanbase bashing him for the PT and TCW. He would have gotten just as much hate as Kennedy and Johnson are getting from vocal TLJ haters for hia version of the ST.

If i had to venture a guess, GL's ST may have gone in directions this fandom almost couldnt stomach. I'd be willing to bet he'd incorporate his more mythological ideas(like Mortis) into the sequels. I cant imagine he wouldnt have been bashed for whatever he did with Kira Solo.

So, on the one hand, he's probably doing the same thing many of us are "well, that's not my head canon" and, on the other, he's experiencing immense relief at not having poured years of his life and heart and soul into the project and gotten raked over the coals for it. And he got $4 billion in the deal. Plus, he is retroactively considered the only person that could have done the sequel trilogy justice by all those same people that slagged him off for the PT. It's pretty damn good to be George right now.

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The same people that slagged him off for the PT are the same that don't like the ST? That's a bold statement.

 

Guarantee there's plenty of crossover.

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But that wasn't your point. Everything I've witnessed shared online over a vast array of websites is that the people that love the ST are by and large, the people that hated the PT.

 

I kind of wish the ST went more Mortis but I don't think it would convert well to film.

 

That's entirely anecdotal.

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It'd be a tough sell, for sure.

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I know @anakinfansince1983 would LOVE if the ST went full Mortis.

 

Go read what you typed again. You made a statement either based on your own limited view or just made it up, which would then beg the question - why even say it?

 

I've seen it all from both camps.

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From one thing to another - Since this is Lit do I take it that some people here have read the Poe comics. I just heard that the way Poe is presented in the comic don't really fit with the whole "he needs to stop being a self-willed hot shot pilot and be able to take orders from your superiors" arc he has in the movie, is this true?

 

I have the first TPB and i cant extrapolate that much from it to say.

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The reviewer mainstream love 7 and 8 while they hated 1 and 2. a lot of the people I see praising 7 and 8 are extremely vocal about how much they hate the prequels. There might be crossover, but I haven't really seen it in a sizable sense.

Jj specifically shot things and wrote things to not be like the PT.

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I mean "the prequels are very bad movies" is a remarkably mainstream opinion.

 

Especially when RLM actively praised TFA and were lukewarm on the criticism of TLJ

 

WTF movie theater are you going to that serves wine? All I get is expensive water and fountain drinks created from bland, tasteless syrup.

And Reese's Pieces.

 

You are going to the wrong theaters my friend! Most drinks are overpriced but quite a few Aussie theaters that aren’t the complexes sell alcohol and decent bar/pub food.

Lucas says a lot of things. Then he contradicts those things because he comes up with something better or has changed his mind about a certain theme or characters motivations as is his right. His referral to slavers was a weird moment for him given that from all accounts it was he who approached Disney in the first place. Regardless his since said on record that he likes both the new ST films. People can take it or leave it really. He could hate them to high heaven for all I care really, it wouldn’t change how I feel about them

 

I know some AMC theaters do - or some type of alcohol, at least.

 

The AMC I work for does.

 

I've heard that complaint, but I don't see it. The last few arcs have included the exact relationship with Leia he has in the films, so it's been great to see that progress.

Though, his arc in the film isn't "be able to take orders", it's "be a responsible leader", so maybe the confusion stems from there.

 

Yeah, I agree with this. I'd cite especially issue 14 (my personal favourite of the series to date), in which Leia actually grounds him and refuses to allow him to fly in part because she's trying to get him to see beyond his narrow focus on just being a hero and wants him to think about being a leader. I'd go so far as to say that not only does it not contradict his arc in the film but it actively helps set it up. (Not to mention that the rest of that story is then all about the Resistance desperately needing fuel....)

 

I’ve already seen a wealth of fanart posters that are way better than the official ones. Always the case though.