Lit Episode VIII - THE LAST JEDI - Official Movie Discussion Thread (Tags Required for rumors/spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Karl0413, Feb 5, 2016.

  1. Havac Former Moderator

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    People do that all the time.
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  2. Ghost Chosen One

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    Yeah, that's just weird to me if it's family, unless it's a parent or grandparent. Personal taste.
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  3. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    The latter would match up amazingly well with the Rey Palpatine theory -- Snoke's a bloke constantly looking over his shoulder fearing Palpatine might show up again, and then he finds out his nemesis might have had a grand-daughter...

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    come to think of it, how amazing would it be if Ghost-Hayden got to confront the offspring of Palpatine? I wasn't a fan of Rey Palpatine or this rumor of Ghost Hayden, but this might be cool. Add in Rey's parents possibly running not from some dark lord, but Luke -- maybe they don't want to give her up? Certainly both Luke and Snoke would be after Palpatine's family, in one way or another. They'd probably be on the run from both of them, especially Snoke. Maybe that's why Snoke wants to train Kylo ASAP, Rocky-style -- the Heir of Vader could be his only hope since Vader killed Palps.
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  4. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Eh double post -- close-up of Lego-Snoke leaked:

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    Basically he's Goldmember from Austin Powers... removed


    Also TLJ Lego Finn's reaction to the above:

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    [IMG]
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  5. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Man, this thread has become a horror show, I mean really....

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    Sidious' spawning offspring requires certain acts....
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  6. Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Master

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    Between TLJ and Twin Peaks, Laura Dern is getting some good roles this year from a hairstyle perspective.
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  7. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    Since Palpatine and Plagueis made Anakin, wouldn't that mean that Luke is his grandson? Leia his granddaughter?
  8. TheRedBlade Jedi Master

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  9. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    Palpatine heavily implied it in ROTS. In the EU, it was more a side effect.
  10. BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost

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    Palpatine literally looks at Anakin and says "Use the midi-cholrians to create life" in a breathless manner. If anything, McDirmid seems to be playing it like Palpatine (or Plageius) had direct influence on Anakin's creation.
  11. DarkEagle Jedi Master

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    Harry Potter did it.... Though it was not particularly well received by the fans :mad:
  12. StarWarsFan91 Jedi Master

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    Ugh

    I haven't read the most recant literature for the potterverse, but I did find out about that horrible plot point.

    I always saw You Know Who to be asexual and aromantic. At least that's what the other books implied to me. He seeing himself above those things. Now were stuck with the horrifying picture that a certain Lady Who I Won't Name played around with his wand, and this all happened off screen and never mentioned in the series. A dumb retcon that wasn't needed.
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  13. Ghost Chosen One

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    The book came out a year ago so I think we're good.

    It was pretty obvious about those 2 characters in the books, JKR even told the actress for Bellatrix the deal when making Movie 5. It's not like You Know Who viewed it in a romantic way, but as a way to continue the sacred bloodline and form the perfect servant.
  14. Vthuil Force Ghost

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    Honestly, I think with both Voldemort and Palpatine people mostly just prefer to think of them as totally non-sexual because the alternative is icky to contemplate. :p
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  15. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    Well, Voldemort and Bellatrix were obviously hooking up.

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    Also, he canonically did have a daughter.


    Palpatine was involved with Isard, one Queen of Naboo, Roganda Ismaren, and allegedly had a Twilek harem.
  16. Vthuil Force Ghost

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    Well, I've actually never been sure whether Palpatine was ever confirmed to be involved with anyone or if it was all just dubious rumors and/or cover stories for his Hands, but that was sort of my point - whether it'd be in his character to ever potentially have descendants or not is actually besides the point for most people objecting to it, since what they're really objecting to is having to imagine Palpatine doing the kinds of things that would produce offspring. (I seriously wonder if, should 'Rey Palpatine' actually be true, the details will involve some sort of weird Sith alchemy or midi-chlorian experiment for just this reason).
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  17. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    They did that with Triclops in fact.
  18. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Is there any confirmation anywhere that Palpatine wasn't already married during the PT?
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  19. anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms

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    It was pretty obvious in books 4-7 that Bellatrix was in love with Voldemort, so much that I could not figure out why her husband didn't just leave. I assumed that Voldemort was incapable or unwilling to have romantic feelings for anyone but he would not say no to sex.

    I did have an issue with their having a child together though, specifically the retconning of book 7 to make Bellatrix pregnant and/or a child being present in Malfoy Manor with all the Death Eaters.

    As far as Palpatine, I could see a similar situation with him, in fact I could easily see him charming a woman in the PT era or earlier and then having a child on Naboo.

    I'm not particularly interested in Rey being a Palpatine descendent though.
  20. Coherent Axe Jedi Padawan

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    He portrayed himself as a bit of a playboy in his early Senate years in Darth Plagueis. How much of that was a front, who knows; the man's certainly got charisma and that Ian McDiarmid charisma when he's not in Emperor mode.
  21. Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Master

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    If only Rey had three eyes, we'd know for sure.
  22. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    It does lend a certain resonance to "If I had sons, I would be proud to give them up to the service of the Dark Lord" at the start of book 6.

    Indeed, maybe that's the moment when she thought - "Hey, if I talk Voldemort into it, I could do that."
  23. Karl0413 Jedi Master

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  24. Vialco Jedi Grand Master

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    Roganda Ismaren
  25. anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms

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