EU Canon

This is not a thread where people debate whether EU is canon or not. In this thread people can debate if they feel that the EU should be part of the saga. Please to do not debate anything to do with canon.

I would like it if people could post heir ideas about if they would like EU to 'canon' and why they feel this way.

If you feel that the EU shouldnot be part of the saga then post your reasons why or wha you would change to make it fit better. Do not give the reason that the writers are Haks.

I will start this of by saying I would not want the EU to be canon though I really like the Solo trilogy and some of the bantam books. The Solo trilogy really helps show why han comes across as cold in the start but also shows his soft side. also like the Corellian trilogy but I would change the importance of the saga by making the Station only be albe to harm the Corellian ector.


Things that I personally would change in the EU is to make Palpatine not come back. This to me undermines Anakin as the chosen one. I don't like the idea of Boba Fett coming back either because apparently Lucas has said that he will do something in the prequels to make us hate him. With just the OT I feel that his return may have been cool and helps show what a badass he is to survive the Sallac. People would watch ROTJ and say something like hat Fett guy was cool shame he died such a crapy death good thing that he survives it.

The Pt now will show him do something really evil maybe killing Jedi kids. Then when we see ROtj they will say tat Fett was a real ******* shame he manages to get out.

I would then limit the number of coflicts and get rid of the whole Vong thing. I would als bannish the Yslameri. There would b no more super weapons and the people who turned to the darkside would never turn back.

Luke would train a padawan ad find out about his family. Leia wuld becme a Jedi and have 1 child with Han who would be trained from birth. Lando wuld remain with the rebellion
become important figures in the military alongside Han. There would be few major squabbles but generally people would live happily. Has anyone esle got any thoughts
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It's spelled "canon" not "cannon."

 

i think anyone who posts in this forum would argue that EU is cannon...if you can get some movie forum people in here it should be interesting though...

 

I don't understand what you're asking us to debate. Questioning whether the EU should be part of the sage is indeed questioning the part it plays in canon.

 

ask Genghis or Val, Im just here to be rediculas.

 

Well I basically want to hear if people feel that the EU is consistent with the movies and if so why. For the people that feel it is not tey can give there reasons why they think that it does ot fit wit the movies and post ideas they have to make it fit better
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BANG! BANG! BANG!

:::Shoots thread before it gets out of hand:::

 

Yeah listen to Kier, these canon debates hurt my fealings!

 

and my feelings

 

Canon debates are pointless. (I'm a strict movie is the only canon person) They go no where primarily because both sides of the arguement think that their belief is so very obvious.

 

OK, I'm totally confused and have questions:

1. What does Canon mean?
2. Why is everybody always debating it?

That'll do for now.

 

Canon is sort of...the final say. What is "real" in the world of fantasy. Movie purists claim that the books contradict the movies too much, and don't keep with the tone, and that the movies are the real saga, books are just add-ons. That's what I subscribe to.

However, as I understand it, EU-ers claim that their stories are every bit as integral to the story as the movies are, and some extremists I've seen actually claim they should take precedence over the movies.

 

Most of the stories are more intimate than the movies, but I can name at least 20 that are on the same epic scale and affect the whole galaxy in some way.

The movies are just primarily about Anakin Skywalker and the fall of the Republic...yet this Galactic Empire which replaced it only existed for about 24 years out of the Republic's 25,000 year history. Imagine the stories that happened within those times.

 

I'd have to respectfully disagree with you, there Sturm. I feel the movies are much more intimate. We get to know the characters very well for only 6 stories, and I feel closer to them than most EU characters. I think it is impossible for the EU to be more intimate primarily because of the number of characters in it.

 

Well definition of intimate he is using I think is the way one gets into someones thoughts and feelings. Hearing and seeing things that others around them don't see or hear.

This is something the movies don't allow, because we are mostly seeing it from an action point of view rather than mental point of view.

Then again his definition of intimate might be something different.

There are different forms of intimacy, no telling which one he is going by.

 

...Must...overcome urge...to...get...involved...

 

Of course it canon! I mean, George Lucas gets the final say in it right? So its not liked they'll come up with a sequel trilogy where Han and Leia didn't get married, and the Yuuzhan Vong never invaded! EU is just filling in what we don't see in the movies: in between, before, after, stuff like that. People who may want to argue this just see it as left up to them to imagine how everything came about and ended up. Whereas we EU supporters (I support EU and Movies) have it put down in a set of "canon" stories: books, comics, games, etc.

 

Down, Kier, down. We need a tranquilezer over here.

Ok, now that I'm over that senseless bit of a joke, lets get down to buisness. It's now pointless to debate if the EU belongs or not, or if it's canon or not. Lucas has recgonized the EU before in a few sources (the one that always springs to my mind is his intro in the 90s rerelease of SotME). And as has been pointed out, LFL has said that the EU is canon. No need for any debates.

 

EU fills in all the plot holes left at the end of ROTJ and all the plot holes before TPM. I mean, with the SITH without EU ppl would wonder why there are so many Jedi and why the SITH have to hide. The TPM Noverlisation does go into more detail than the movie but it lacks any discernable depth. Also with the end of ROTJ a lot of strings are left untied like how Leia deals with her new found heritage (TaB), if Leia and Han are going to get married (COPL) etc....

 

Ok since peope feel that it is canon then what changes would you make to the story so that it fits in better. This may just be as simple as saying that you wanted han and leia to have been married sooner.

Since I don't want this to turn into a Canon debate you can discuss things that you want changed in the moviesor added as well. If I was to change anything in the movies I would add Palpatine in a New Hope and I would have the rebels talk to Luke about his legendary father.

SO feel free then to discuss tings that you think should be tweaked,removed or added in both the films and the EU.

 

Read the novelization to ANH. Red Leader (Blue Leader in the book) mentions to Luke that he met Anakin. He then tells him that if he's at least half the pilot his old man was, then he should do pretty well in the upcoming battle.

 

The EU should be cannon. It is already cannon so there isn't no debate, but it should be part of the Star Wars saga.

 

Not cannon, canon. A cannon is a war weapon, canon (in this case) is pretty much everything is confirmed as happening or exsisting.