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Discussion in 'EU Community' started by CPL_Macja, Sep 3, 2012.

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  1. General Valerian

    General Valerian Jedi Knight star 4

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    Yeah, pretty much. :p

    Who do you believe could have done it?
     
  2. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not sure, that's why I asked. :p

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  3. General Valerian

    General Valerian Jedi Knight star 4

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    There must be at least someone who could've prevented at least one of those two relationships.
     
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  4. JacensGirl

    JacensGirl Jedi Master star 4

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    At the risk of sounding too Freudian, I think his love of Padme comes out of the loss he feels for his mother (leaving her, even before her death), so I see those two as linked. Padme met his mother, she visited his home planet when he was a kid, and she was the first other compassion he knew other than his mother. Especially since Qui-Gon dies shortly after he leaves Tattooine.
    My point being that no Jedi could have prevented it - though a more observant and strict Master might have kept them apart more diligently. Though from what we see of Anakin - might that just have caused him to turn on his Master?

    The relationship with Sidious seems to replace the actual connection he does not feel to Obi-Wan; so maybe another Jedi could have taken that place?
     
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  5. General Valerian

    General Valerian Jedi Knight star 4

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    I think this has to do with the fact that Obi-Wan and Anakin were opposites and also the fact that Obi-Wan didn't truly want to train him as his Padawan. As Becca said, he only did so out of a sense of duty to his deceased Master.

    This is in great part what kept them apart and never allowed their differences to be settled in order to have a more harmonious and less conflictive relationship.
     
  6. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think a stricter Master would have seen Anakin turn to Sidious as the "father figure" even more so than with Obi-Wan. A less strict master would have seen the relationship with Padme flower that much more. It was something internal to Anakin, his fear of losing loved ones, prodded on by his relationship with ol' Palpy that brought about his fall. Not sure there was any way to prevent that.

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  7. Rebecca_Daniels

    Rebecca_Daniels Force Ghost star 5

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    I think a Master who was perhaps less action oriented... or one who was away from Coruscant more, perhaps. I don't think Anakin's love of Padme is inherently of the dark side, but his obsession over her absolutely was. Mommy issues, as Jay says.

    I do think that Obi-wan did the best he could with what he knew, and ultimately made up for it all.
     
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  8. JacensGirl

    JacensGirl Jedi Master star 4

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    Hm. Good point.
     
  9. General Valerian

    General Valerian Jedi Knight star 4

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    Of course, mommy issues.

    Ultimately, though, it doesn't really matter because in the end he did indeed fulfill his role as 'the Chosen One', so everything else is irrelevant. :p
     
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  10. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Chosen One star 9

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    Qui-Gon forgot to recite the Terms and Conditions of training Anakin to Obi-Wan before conveniently dying. :p
     
  11. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And as fascinating as this conversation has been (truly enjoyable) I must be off now. Good day jetiise.

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  12. General Valerian

    General Valerian Jedi Knight star 4

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    See you, Bardan.
     
  13. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Chosen One star 9

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    Later, Bardan.
     
  14. JacensGirl

    JacensGirl Jedi Master star 4

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    See ya, Bardan. have a good one :)
     
  15. Rebecca_Daniels

    Rebecca_Daniels Force Ghost star 5

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    Indeed an interesting topic... I know there's an RPG that deals with rewriting the EU but I'm curious what would have happened if Anakin hadn't fallen to the dark side, if Order 66 hadn't happened, if Palpatine had been arrested/killed... I think the Jedi Order stil would have fallen eventually, personally, they'd grown too arrogant.
     
  16. JacensGirl

    JacensGirl Jedi Master star 4

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    That, and the old adage about absolute power.
     
  17. General Valerian

    General Valerian Jedi Knight star 4

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    I must say, what a scumbag, trolling prophecy that was.

    The one who wrote it was like, 'I'll tell them about the Chosen One who will bring balance to the Force, but I won't specify that he would first turn to the dark side and completely destroy the Jedi Order.'

    :p
     
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  18. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Chosen One star 9

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    Apparently no one read the fine print carefully. :p
     
  19. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    *reads this post...and hears the sound of hopping*

    DARN IT!!!

    Now the plot bunnies are back! :p
     
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  20. Rebecca_Daniels

    Rebecca_Daniels Force Ghost star 5

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  21. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The 'Vong win' RP idea tanked anyway...but now you've got me tempted with this idea. Darn it Becca! :p
     
  22. Rebecca_Daniels

    Rebecca_Daniels Force Ghost star 5

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    Sign me up if it happens :p
     
  23. Chewbacca89

    Chewbacca89 Jedi Master star 5

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    I wonder if Windu could have kept Anakin under control if he became his Master?
     
  24. Pearlsaber

    Pearlsaber Jedi Master star 4

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    He could always threaten to shave his head if he misbehaved.

    That would be enough for me not to get out of line. :p


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  25. Chewbacca89

    Chewbacca89 Jedi Master star 5

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    Same here, bro. Anything but my hair! :p
     
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