CT Ewoks, yay or nay?

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Ewoks, Yay or Nay?

Yay 131 vote(s) 67.2%
Nay 70 vote(s) 35.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Moviefan2k4 Force Ghost

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    Dec 29, 2009
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    Even today, I don't really have a problem with the Ewoks. Wicket was adorable when I was a kid, and later learning Warwick Davis was just a child himself in '83 explained some of that.
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  2. TheWatcher Jedi Knight

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    Dec 26, 2013
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    Wookies would have been better and if they did it in the Holiday Special what's to say ROTJ (with a bigger budget and a little bit more of creative imput by GL) couldn't have pulled it out.

    But....I dont mind Ewoks. I like them.
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  3. Big_Benn_Klingon Jedi Grand Master

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    Nov 14, 2013
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    When I was a kid the age divide was around 10 years old.. under 10 you loved the Ewoks more than life - over 10 and you tolerated their presence (and in some cases disliked). I was on the older side of the equation. The feeling was (and is) that Ewoks would have been far more acceptable if they didn't defeat "an entire legion" of the emperor's "finest troops."
  4. Onderon1 Force Ghost

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    Mar 18, 2008
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    Yay. For the moment, let's set aside the decades worth of EU, interviews, etc., and look at the Ewok evidence presented solely in ROTJ.

    From the start, IMHO, they were never presented solely as comic relief. It makes sense that when you have a species both smaller than the average humanoid and evolved within a specific environment, that they're going to be able to use said environment to best effect against an invading force. The very first scene where Wicket sneaks around the Scout Trooper made sense to me, because A. Wicket is naturally camoflagued and B. able to maneuver better.

    (Seriously, who wears black and white armor to a forest environment? And armor has natural gaps. If spears or arrows don't penetrate a chestplate, aim for the neck or joints. It's not such a stretch to consider that an "inferior" force might overcome a technologically advanced one.)

    The village scene, where Luke uses the Force, is another example. The Ewoks were going to eat their captives. It's all the more unsettling now because they were cute. True, applying deep thought to the scenario means that Luke likely would have freed the others, but at a terrible cost to the Ewoks and maybe Team Skywalker - sometimes being in real control of a situation means watching, waiting, and analyzing. Jedi don't slaughter furballs, they try and make friends first.

    Back to the EU: The Essential Guide to Warfare pretty clearly lays out that the Ewoks were more in charge of the situation than ROTJ presents. And while Imperial arrogance about the "primitives" isn't evident in ROTJ, there are several EU examples where the Empire considered the Ewoks not worth the trouble of containing/otherwise confronting.

    Even before that, there are plenty of examples of Ewok courage and determination in the EU (Kolot, the Ewoks manning that weapon emplacement in, IIRC, Dark Empire). They aren't just teddy bears, they're warriors.
  5. Doom Trooper Jedi Master

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    Jan 1, 2014
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    I never minded the Ewoks at all and the backlash they get I think is tiring. They're not even really that cute when you think about it, they were going to eat Luke, Han and Chewie, not exactly kiddie stuff.
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  6. FRAGWAGON Force Ghost

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    Nov 3, 2012
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    And they were losing the battle, people. Quick thinking and some Corellian trickery carried the day.
  7. Barbecue17 Jedi Grand Master

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    Nov 11, 2013
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    I'll go with yay. They legitimately fought the battle. They didn't win by some crazy luck or something. They're pretty cool and I did liike them as a kid. Heck, I still like them now. Celebrate the love, yub nub!
  8. Jeff McKissock Jedi Grand Master

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    Sep 11, 2012
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    I like the Ewoks and have no beef with them. I never understood the bad rap they get (but that's just me)
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  9. Cushing's Admirer Chosen One

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    Jun 8, 2006
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    I like the idea of the Ewoks that a primitive species can help make a stand but it's the handling I don't like. The potential of human sacrifice and worship of what could basically be a golden idol due to Luke's playing on their fears. No, thanks.
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  10. Doom Trooper Jedi Master

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    Jan 1, 2014
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    A part of me would kinda like to see a much darker take on the Ewoks with them eating their prey. I think it could be fun to see as part of a twisted spin-off story.
  11. The Star Wars Archivist Jedi Master

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    Oct 22, 2013
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    I like Ewoks, I really do. The problem is when the battle comes in. I would have at least like to see a stormtrooper able to withstand an Ewok on his back instead of crashing to the ground. Sure they know their terrain better and have other tactical advantages, but come on. Stormtroopers are cannon fodder in the OT. Its like they're there, purely for the purpose of being killed.
    Last edited by The Star Wars Archivist, Jan 10, 2014
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  12. skyrimcat9416 Jedi Master

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    Nov 1, 2013
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    NAY.

    And I find it funny that so many OT purists hate on Jar Jar and the Gungans for being too "kid-friendly," but completely defend the concept of an army of cute teddy bears being able to defeat the Empire.

    Completely ironic.
    Last edited by skyrimcat9416, Jan 10, 2014
  13. CommanderDrenn Jedi Grand Master

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    Oct 19, 2013
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    Nay, because there is no way a stone-headed spear can be that effective when thrown at such a low velocity.
  14. FRAGWAGON Force Ghost

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    Nov 3, 2012
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    I just like to sit in Star Wars movies yelling "NO WAY!" at every scene.
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  15. DarthMak Force Ghost

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    Jan 4, 2001
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    Love them. Love ROTJ, love the cartoons, love the spin-off films. Yub yub.
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  16. Bail B. Baobab Force Ghost

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    Jan 21, 2014
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    Yay. I absolutely love that our heroes are brought together with a tribe of animist warrior teddy bears in order to defeat the Empire. Hence my signature.

    Allayloo ta nuv!
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  17. Jessie1111 Jedi Youngling

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    Jan 19, 2014
    Yay. A pride of Wookies ripping storm troopers apart would have been more than I could have take as a child.
  18. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Nov 20, 2012
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  19. fuzzbox77 Force Ghost

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    Mar 31, 2008
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    Never had a problem with them back in '83 and I don't recall many other people having an issue with them back then either.

    I'm all for a Yay... Static eyed ones and not the blinking buggers from 2011.
  20. Marco1907 Jedi Master

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    Nov 27, 2013
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  21. Odolwa Jedi Grand Master

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    Nov 12, 2013
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    They need to bring them into the senate with slicked back hair and business suits
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  22. Sarge Chosen One

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    Oct 4, 1998
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    The Ewoks of Wall Street
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  23. AkshayTheJedi Jedi Master

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    Mar 12, 2013
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  24. Poor Greedo Jedi Grand Master

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  25. Nexumaster Force Ghost

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    Feb 21, 2005
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    I like them and never really had any issues with them. I would be more than alright with some Ewoks in the ST, even if they're just background characters.