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Full Series Ezra

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Revanfan1, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. redlightning

    redlightning Jedi Knight star 4

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    It would be interesting to see if Ezra has to kill his parents in a choice between the Ghost crew being betrayed and loyalty to them if they joined the Empire.
     
  2. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    Ezra is a great new character that deserves to continue beyond the REBELS serial, in the ever evolving saga of Star Wars. Let me compare it to the two other main characters in time: Luke and Anakin.

    Luke is just too good to be real. He is over gifted, (as all of them), he learns the Force 'en route' to fighting Vader, he rejects the offer to join his father and form a new (good) empire. (I wouldn't reject it, btw). Moreover, he forgot to kill the emperor when he won the fight with Vader at the end of episode 6. What stopped Luke to attack Palpatine at that moment? We don't know the outcome of such scenario, but Luke didn't even try it. Luke is just too good, gentle, even to his real enemy. I am anxious to see him in older age in Episode 7, whether he will repeat the errors of his youth.

    Anakin in episodes 1,2,3 follows a stable trend towards the dark side, although he is justified on almost every step from his childhood to adulthood. He is a character pretty much opposite of that of Luke. He was excused of taking those dark side steps, up until he allowed the killing of Mace Windu. Even then, he didn't do it intentionally, he didn't kill anyone but he "had no choice" other than to join the emperor (in order to save Padme). His actual crossing to the dark side was not the kneeling before Papatine. It was the cold-blood slaughter of the younglings in the Temple. One may say, his lifepath was made in a way to meet that of the older Vader, and there was no alternative for his choices. Stil Vader converted to the light before he died.

    Although we tend to review the Episodes and TV serials in their chronology of Star Wars, we have to remember they are created in different chronology in the real life time, under very different conditions in the world society. Thus, the episodes 4,5,6 were made at the end of the Cold War and reflect the ongoing in that time struggle in the real life. We have very polarized characters there.

    The characters of TV Clone Wars including that of Anakin, are more elaborated than the characters in Episodes 1,2,3. There we have Palpatine showing quite good sides at times. Anakin fighting for a "good" republic until the end. Even to the extend he opposed the Jedi council in the staged trial of Asuko. He defended the good side, while at times the Jedi were deluded to practically serve the dark side, mostly without knowing it. The image of Clone Wars' Anakin is much more complex than that of the episodes 1,2,3 of Anakin that moved to the Dark Side with every next step. Clone Wars' Anakin was not obligued to follow the dark side, and he didn't. Unfortunately, the logic of the chronology of Star Wars ends with Anakin being turned to the dark side, no matter what.

    The continuing elaboration of characters finds a new face in the new hero in the ongoing serial Rebels – that of Ezra. He has the force by birth, he is one of the "chidren of the force". He doesn't want to be trained Jedi, a very different position than that of Luke, or that of the young Anakin who did everything to be trained. Ezra doesn't fear to object his master at every occasion, to the point Kanan finds no reason to oppose these objections but to agree with some of them. In contrast, the young Anakin spoke contrary to Obi-Wan in public for a first time before Padme, in a "macho" position.

    Ezra has every quality of Anakin, except of being promoted as "general" by the republic/now empire. He is not promoted by a powerful Jedi order, senator or emperor. Instead he is going against the current. That makes him much more complex character. He is at odds with everyone up until now, his closest friends and master. This is reflected in his odd clothing, a strange breast cover with roughly cut collar, and over- coating jacket that seems a bit ripped on the edges. It shows a strong rough character, not the Jedi style robe that is “more gentle”. Ezra got his lightsaber and crystal as a miracle out of nowhere, unlike the long story of making lightsabers in Clone Wars.

    Ezra has the force by the will of the force (the 'children of the force'), not by approval by Jedi master or council. He is at odds with his master while still serving the force, in the way he sees it fit. He is in a process of learning, and he is willing to learn.

    We don't know how that character will evolve. Star Wars saga had already too much polarized characters, that are not real human characters. The Saga had to show up the fact the human nature is mixed and prone to error. In an effort to bring the characters closer to the audience of young (and young by heart) people. That was done to a great degree in the Clone Wars. Now, in Rebels, Ezra Bridger is a good way to make that bridge between the idealistic and the realistic life. The name Ezra is, besides everything else, a name from the Bible, the book of Ezra. In the mind of the more mature audience it would bring memories of other eras on Earth and would connect them to the Star Wars saga. For some of them, that matters.

    Having all that said, the character image of Ezra should surpass its predecessors Luke and Anakin. I don't think Ezra should be allowed to turn to the dark side. In a dominated world by one super-empire, it is hard to imagine a real hero will rise by choosing the ranks of those of the 'Inquisitor' and seeking their 'blessings'. It is contrary to the entire idea of good vs evil in Star Wars. Instead, Ezra could seek to draw from the force those unknown yet powers, beyond what Luke or even Anakin did at their times. If we have as postulate an unlimited force, we could expect unlimited manifestations of it, much beyond of what was already shown for decades Star Wars.

    We have a strong rebellion fleet in Episode 4 and rebel organization compatible to that of a small determined galactic army that controls planets, although in hiding from the super-empire. What we see in Rebels is just the start of it. Ezra, Kanan, the founders of the Rebel army?


    Ezra is an image much closer to the mind and heart of today's young population of planet earth, than the image of Luke Skywalker in the era of the Cold War. We lived with that image at that time, but it didn't incorporate everything we dreamed of it. I am curious will Ezra do it instead, in a changed world today. Be sure the young world is watching and watching it closely. What Ezra is doing, will be copied tomorrow by millions youngsters (and not only), in whatever situation the real world will offer them to decide.

    Will it be surpassed by the new characters in Episode 7? We can only guess. It was strange Episode 7 was delayed one year more. Perhaps to give chance of the serial Rebels and Ezra to show up character sides that are not possible to be included in a 2h movie.
     
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  3. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Thats dark.
     
  4. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    Reading yours and others posts, I try to imagine who could be his father, an evil one...the Inquisitor!? No!!!
    If his parents are not good one, the spiritual development of Ezra would be even bigger. What evolving you have of Anakin who was literally taken up from his dusty hut and brought into the heart of the Republic on Coruscant, to the temple and the senate? No surprise he chose the logical, easy way, the paved with gold way of the dark side, the way "what the people are to do in his position". If it were not the killings of innocents, I doubt most of the people would ever consider to reject the brilliant career of Anakin as personal friend and representative of the great and beloved Chancellor, as general of the Republics, as conqueror of enemy planets controlled by the evil Trade Federation and drones. Where is the evil here? He is a galactic hero, much before he turned to the dark side!

    If the Star Wars Saga was different and was needed a Napoleonic-type "good" emperor, Anakin could be crowned for that purpose.

    I think series Rebels are introduced to correct the view of the prosperous galactic commander Anakin, into a more-earthly, more-grounded character of a struggling for righteousness Ezra, full of his failures and errors as a young human, who learns the ways of the force. Interesting enough where these ways will lead him (and us) to. Not to a new emperor, I hope. In fact, Episode 6 ended indecisively, because the imperial fleet and structure remained intact. Books have been written for the possible development afterwards. The republic established at that time, copied much of the empire, as it were in the time of the old republic. It took Coruscant only to defend it against powerful fleets of imperial commanders. It encountered corruption and power struggle known from the Old republic. That is in the books separate of any serial. Let see what Episode 7 will bring first. But before episode 7 we are introduced with the bright new talent, Ezra, and I think there is why. Because Anakin of the TV Clone Wars although presented very good, was not a character to be copied by the youngsters - he ended up on the evil side. The youngsters need a model to follow. As I explained above, both Anakin and Luke are not possible to be followed because they are too idealistic, too polarized, too hi in the society if you will. Ezra may come exactly on time to prepare all of us of what's coming next to the world.
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  5. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    Talking of Ezra turning to the Dark side: of course the scenario could have such a dramatic turn, although I do not expect it.

    Before that, however, we should try to define better what the dark and good sides of the force are. What we have of the example of the Jedi council in episodes 2,3 and Clone Wars, shows shortcomings and shortseeing for the presence of the dark side, to the extend to allow ONE MAN, no matter how powerful, to take control of the entire galactic republic. I do not blame the Jedi for the rise of Palpatine, who had enough supporters among the disillusioned star systems (and that is another surprising fact), and who carefully managed the Clone Wars for his own ends.

    But the Jedi in all their masterity should have seen the danger of that trend - both in Palpatine whom they knew personally, and among the representatives of the Senate who were not saints either.

    The Jedi, especially Mace Windu, could not stop Anakin to follow Palpatine. One may say, their unwise decisions and suspicion towards Anakin (in episode 3) pushed him closer to his only "big friend" - Palpatine.

    Obi Wan was irrelevant at moments as well. We remember the episode with Padme, how he wanted Padme to disclose the whereabouts of Anakin in order to be hunted and killed. It was too much for a Jedi master. Obi Wan didn't kill him physically, after all, he did worse. He made his soul to be killed. Perhaps, if Anakin wasn't thrown in the lake of fire, but let alone with his own determined "mission to save the galaxy", at one moment he would decide against the emperor (whom he didn't love!) and thus put an end of the empire much sooner than the Episode 6 events, when he killed the emperor anyway to save his son Luke.

    What we have with Ezra, is a new chance the Star Wars saga to have a new beginning. Not related to the lineage Anakin-Luke-Lea, and yet growing with the force on exponential pace, Ezra shows the good side of the Force could have a different face than the self-controlled Jedi masters demonstrated until now. The initiatives of Ezra bring innovation and new horizons that lack within the old 'dogmatic' Jedi teaching (words of Palpatine to Anakin). I hope a better style will be seen in Episode 7 within the new Jedi order.

    Because, after all, those characters are not painted on a wall by Michelangello, rather they are created as some kind of new moral models to a growing population on planet Earth. Do we need the ideal model of a jedi master who will never do anything wrong, and doing so will allow the biggest trespasses happen, not for himself but for the people around him? Or do we need the creativity of younger (in spirit) persons like Ezra who will make the so needed change in society today? I guess a boss of a big company would never hire a person like Ezra. But today's world society needs desperately people like Ezra to make it survive, to find its existential meaning. It is good we see such influential film to show that kind of character as the good hero.

    The new Jedi council that I expect to see in Episode 7, should have learned from the past errors either. Otherwise, the New Republic would differ little from the Old Republic, and paradoxically, from the Empire itself. What if...Palpatine was good, not bad? Actually, he wasn't all the time bad, that old wise man...The entire struggle seen in episodes 4,5,6 and destruction of entire planets, would have lost any sense, if we will end up with a new bureaucratic republic that will change one man with 10 at the top. "But they are good, you know, not like Palpatine..." Who said that?

    I don't think the adventurous Han Solo would play a better role as minister thinking of the common good more than the generals of Vader. Everything depends on your point of view. And the point of view of the Rebellion republic was not always the best one. That doesn't mean the evil Empire and emperor were the good ones. But what is good side and dark side were never defined so far, not even by master Yoda.
     
  6. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well is Ezra is really Daniel LaRusso, then fear does exist in this dojo. Doubtful they'd make him a villain.
     
  7. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    They can't if they follow the idea of all previous serials. Indeed Anakin moved to the dark side, but only in Episode 3 after series of failures of the Jedi order towards him. In the entire Clone Wars he wasn't bad. It didn't follow from the logic of the Clone Wars that Anakin would turn to the dark side. If the Clone Wars were not in chronological sequence with the Episodes, Anakin of the CW should not turn to the dark side. He wasn't bad, first of all!

    Except, if we imagine the staged trial of Asuko would have ended with her death sentence, by no one else but the Jedi council plus Palpatine. That was omitted however. You know the auditory are kids who would have accepted it pretty emotionally. What remains is, however, the absolute inadequacy of the Jedi council at the end of the Clone Wars, and to a degree, in Episode 3. On that base, the trespass of Anakin is no more his personal fault (only) rather a fault of the system that pretended to be on the good side of the force.

    If that is repeated with Ezra, they'd better close the Jedi system of peace and justice altogether, in one of the next episodes (will there be episodes after 7). Because it would mean the Force manifests itself better for the common good through young non-standard characters who are ready to trespass a rule (Anakin) or not to follow rules from the very beginning (Ezra) in order to make things better, according to what the Force teaches them. At the end of the day, it is what is needed for a society that is watching, especially the kids: who is the good hero who will make the things better, in this case on the galactic scale with spaceships. Not who holds the power, that in most cases in Star Wars was shown as corrupt, outdated and dogmatic. Not who is holding some masterity of unknown fully rules, and pretends for impeccability while imposing to others those rules without any chance of discussion. Neither the dogmatic nor the totalitarian and corrupt, no matter the names. It is the good young brave hero that the public want to see as the good example.

    So, who is the villain then? Surely not Ezra, and not Anakin, up to the point he killed the younglings in Episode 3. I am very thankful to Star Wars and Lucasfilm that they created the characters of Anakin in Clone Wars and now Ezra in Rebels. Those are the real characters that bear the good side. Not emperors, senators, not even jedi masters who cannot distinguish good from evil.
     
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  8. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    The existence of ubiquitous all-powerful Force that fills the galaxies and everything living, that is the postulate of the Star Wars from the beginning. The framing of that universal Force into rules of Jedi order, although good for the temporal development of the galaxy for a thousand years, proves to fail in long term. The prehistory of Star Wars (sci-fi books) speak of other dark lords and other management different from the known. (actually that is not part of the Star Wars saga in the films).

    But that is not everything. We have the phenomenon of immortality discovered by Yoda and Obi Wan for a first time (in the known saga). We should assume the manifestation of all-powerful Force increases in time, not decreases. It would be wrong to narrow that idea in the frames of "good-evil" scheme, with the good ones being those obeying the Jedi order, and the evil ones - those who disagree. Indeed, it was exactly that way in the Episodes. The TV serials differ. They show that another explanation and manifestation of the Force is not only possible, it is beneficial for the people. Anakin was already general in Clone Wars and he did his best to bring the common good. How, such a good character would be allowed to turn into the evil Anakin who killed the younglings? Well, that is the chronology of episodes written earlier that have to be justified by series made later. Anakin is destined follow that road, because we already know him from episodes 3, and 4,5,6.

    However, I prefer as a leader a character similar to Anakin from Clone Wars, rather than the dogmatic approach of the good ones who didn't do much good at the end. They lost the Republic to one evil man and his unknown supporters - trade federation and alike. They lost everything built up for millenia and returned the galaxy back into pre-historic times (not covered by the Star Wars). I wouldn't admire SUCH Jedi order and its rules. Moreover, I'd say its absurd rules at time made it possible the good Anakin to turn to the evil Dart Vader.

    Ezra is the new beginning in the entire saga, because he actually puts the beginning of the Rebellion, that grows to separate galactic entity with its own feet in episode 4, capable to destroy the Death Star. I really hope the idea behind creating the character of Ezra will find future, in an evolving idea of what the Force is.

    Otherwise, we end up with a duel with red and blue/green sabers between polarities that don't even speak their ideas they are fighting for, before one of them is being killed (Episode 1). We have personal enmity playing big enough role ( Count Dooku). We can certainly say, one of them is the appointed evil. But why, we are not sure.

    The story is too short in that way, and restricted to who has the better ships and the better skills to manage them. If you have read any of the sci-fi books as continuation of episode 6, you will know the new republic differs very little, and encounters just the same problems inherited by the old republic and by the empire. Then all comes to a few leaders that in the republic are designated as good ones, and usually clothed in white, in contrast with the empire who are clothed in dark.

    Such approach says very little of the true nature of the Force and why it is so those people and AGENDAS are said to be good, and the others over there - BAD.

    Now Star Wars comes out of that dead end self-imposed paradigm of polarity, and admits the goodness of the Force is larger than the simplistic explanation. Even if that explanation is done by Master Yoda, the undisputed benevolent character in the entire saga.
     
  9. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    From the character of Ezra as the new leader to found the separate galactic entity of Rebellious republic, I'd like to emerge something more: a new understanding and teaching of how the Force will be encountered. Questioning of every old dogmatic rule that proved futile at times. (for example, why only one padawan, because the 'code forbids it'). Making real good to people, not absurd decisions by Mace Windu that brought Palpatine to power. A new generation of gifted children with the Force who will make the new face of the galaxy - not the repetition of the old republic with new personages. If Lea Organa, the daughter of Dart Vader, is a prime minister or so, thanks to the influence her father had over the old imperial structures, and if Han Solo her husband is a minister of energy giving profitable concessions to his friend Lando on Bespin, I don't see any difference between the old and the new system.

    Episode 7 and season 2 of Rebels are yet to be seen. But the saga doesn't end here, if we are talking of a real saga, the best in the last decades that generations grew up with it. It all matters. When your kid asks 'where is my lightsaber' you understand that is no more a movie, that is a changed reality for the minds and hearts of millions.
     
  10. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Esdras you can edit your posts so you don't have to make new comments.
     
  11. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    thank you but I found that option restricted in time. Moreover, I say new things. Isn't it better you comment on my comments? Thank you anyway. I'm already done with the intro monologue, or you name it. I think I had to say it all, and that's why I am here in first place. Will be glad any of you to comment any part of my comments. Thank you for reading!
     
  12. McRowdy

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  13. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I doubt they'd make Yoda responsible for two Sith's, or 1 Sith and one darkside failed Jedi.
     
  14. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    No, but I think it will be suggested only Yoda knew about the Rule of Two. Suspect it will tie in to Yoda arc in TCW; he was aware of Darth Bane and the creation of the new Sith Order (well, just a master and apprentice).

    Somehow, pre to TPM, Yoda encountered a Sith
     
  15. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    In the Episodes 1-6 we have been shown Demonization of the Dark side. I am not defending it. But you can't possibly have Anakin playing all those TV serials as GOOD, at odds with an outdated Jedi council, and at once, you have him extremely Dark and Evil. Of course that is the paradox for the closed time loop that we are in, because Anakin already became such in Episode 3, 4,5,,6 that appeared BEFORE.

    Still, it is much to be researched about the polarities in Star Wars Universe. How is it the good is not so good and the dark AT TIMES is not so evil either.

    If they make out of Ezra a villain it will be the greatest Fault of Star Wars saga. Remember, it is primarily kids who live it out. How is it when their beloved heroes, one after another, turn to become evil. Wouldn't that form kids' minds in that direction too, and against outdated orders and rules. (not against Yoda I hope, but there weren't all saints in that council).

    I am sorry for the long posts that not everyone would have the time to read. But that is my style from other forums too where I post for years. I find two-line answers as too short to express one's position on such more elaborated topics. Of course you might be just better than me in short writing, and that is great for you!

    Star Wars, besides everything else, appeared to be a powerful tool of shaping public opinion starting from the youngsters. It played a role in the Fall of Socialist Block. Will it play a role now, and if yes, what? Thank you for reading here!
     
  16. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Darkside is bad, its all the negative actions and reactions and thoughts.


    How am I to know the good side from the bad?"-Luke
    "You will know, when you are calm. At peace, passive."-Yoda
     
  17. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    I'm not saying the Dark Side is good and should be followed. But what we are given as facts in Star Wars Universe, the good heroes use sometimes Dark side in order to make good win. One may search such moments in every episode, of anger etc necessary to win over the every next villain.

    Kanan accused Ezra that he saved him, by making that monster protect them both from the Inquisitor. Is that the Dark side? Or was it Kanan who made it wrong?

    Kanan went further on, to request a test for Ezra, while he wasn't that much grown up for the test in the temple. He passed it thru, not thanks to Kanan. He didn't show fear before the Inquisitor with the lightsaber. He proved he is beyond the tricks of the SO DEFINED Dark side.

    It was Kanan who made both incidents happen, that risked both lives. It was his plan to land on that asteroid virtually unprotected against the overpowering Inquisitor. He risked both his life and that of Ezra, as well as the future of the Jedi (because they didn't know there were others).

    Is that the good side of the Jedi teaching. If so, the demise of Jedi order came as a result of logical development based on wrong doctrine, coupled with personal errors. Passiveness yes, but not passiveness in the face of overwhelming evil. Such passiveness and unnecessary sacrifice only fuels the powers of evil, imo. Dark Side if you will. Yoda showed other attitude was possible to fight evil, in Episode 2, when he was de facto commander-in-chief of the Republic.

    That's why I think, the doctrine of the Jedi has to be re-examined thoroughly and more clear definition of what the Dark Side is to be made. By the Star Wars filmmakers. Because after all, it is they and not Yoda who define that.

    You always can see running screaming kids with sabers playing dark Lords, those characters supposed to impress antagonistic feelings in them in order to strive for the good side

    Of course, I'd like to know the deeper purpose of Star Wars' makers, to make certain human characteristics such as anger, labeled Dark Side. Let they redefine better what they mean under "Dark Side" and what is permissible for the Light heroes as well, in order to win over the bad guys.

    In a Universe where always the Dark side wins, and is apparently stronger, one may want to turn to it in order to fulfil one's normal human expectations, such as Love - as it was the case with Anakin. He didn't ultimately turn against the Jedi council because of the constant insults of the latter, but because he wanted to save Padme.

    Ezra might be the good occasion the redefinition of Dark and Light to be done in Rebels, before we encounter the next young Jedi turning to the Dark side - the son of Lea.
    Or even more, that goes out of scope of this topic.
     
  18. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Kanan is at a dangerous place himself, throughout the first season he was wrestling with his own fear and uncertainty, he lacked self confidence and seems reluctance towards the burden of responsibility. He's still vulnerable to the darkside at this point himself. The darkside is easily selected,sometimes without fully being aware. Thats why Kanan told Ezra no when he summoning all his hate and anger to control the giant monster. The beastmaster stuff though is more a Filoni adage although there was some elements of using the Force to calm beasts of burden in the movies and EU. If you're using bad for good, that is still bad. Its the same as you may fool yourself and others, but not God which in the Star Wars universe is The Force. The Anchorites thought they were doing good, but ended up just serving themselves and their own needs and greed, thus they too were bad and why they perished. The Jedi Order was also corrupted and why they needed to perish and be reborn clean and new.
     
  19. Esdras

    Esdras Jedi Youngling

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    I'd wish to see it happen. Both in the films and reflected in our earthly reality.
     
  20. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We saw it happen during the PT. It was to late, as Yoda told Windu.

    "For in fighting the battles, the bloodshed already lost we have.
    Yet, open to us, a path remains that unknown to the Sith is.
    Through this path, victory we may yet find.
    Not victory in the Clone Wars but victory for all time."

    All the wars and rise in corruption was feeding the darkside and in return feeding the Sith who were sowing the seeds for all sorts of evil in the galaxy, they feed off all the negative energy, the rise in negative energy made the Jedi weaker as they fed off the positive and good in the galaxy. Then there was the Sith shrine buried under the Jedi Temple, that was slowing eating away at the Jedi order for a 1,000 years unbeknownst to them. The Order was corrupted, you get some of that also when the Jedi quickly starts to turn against Yoda and suspect him of being under the influence of the Sith and they blame him for Dooku's turn to the darkside ect.


    The PT/TCW were very dark in the sense of being fatalistic. Luke was the light and good being born that would change things towards the goodside.
     
  21. Starsaber49

    Starsaber49 Jedi Knight star 1

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    (Opens the door of the sleeping Etza thread's bedroom and enters. Holds up a speakerphone near the thread's ear. "WAKE UP! Siege of Lothal came out recently, we need to analyse Erza's change of character in the premiere! Thread wakes up grumbling.)

    This completly unfunny skit was brought to you by Starsaber.

    As today is the day I go full post mode on the entire forum, I just had to begin some analysis on my man Ezra in his post S1 personality.

    First off, Ezra seems to be far more attuned with the force now, he was able to sense Maketh Tua's fear, was able to sense Vader terrifying presecnese in the chaos of the space battle, and overall seems far more "balanced" then he was before.
    Personality wise, I gonna go nitty gritty. Because personaltiy wise, Ezra is out Jeding Kanan currently. Erza throughout Siege of Lothal tries to help those in need, think about things maturely, and actively wants to support the slowly forming Rebel Alliance. Even after literally going up FACE TO FACE with a SITH LORD, who we know as the all-powerful Darth Vader, he still wants to fight. Not because he felt powerless against Vader (though he did feel like that during that lightsaber near neck scene.) But he wants to fight because it's the RIGHT thing to do. He isn't afraid of Vader, because Ezra has reach a point in his character where, while he will certainly avoid death if given a better option, Erza seems at very least to me, as a person would rather die doing the right thing, then live by being selfish. A far cry from Ezra from Spark of Rebellion.

    So thats my two cents. Now that this thread has been woken up, I hope some discusison will circulate it.
     
  22. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    I thought Ezra's call to action seemed rather reckless. Sure, he wants to help people, but there's only so much he can do. The first priority of rebel groups like Ezra's should be to live to fight another day. And besides, it's not like the people of Lothal and other worlds are completely helpless...the Empire can only engage in so much repression before it starts to backfire on them.
     
  23. Huttslime

    Huttslime Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I'm not really attached to any of the characters in Rebels, but the kid does seem to have touched the darkside I,e when he manipulated that massive beast against the Inquisitor/bitterness from losing his parents. He seems to have a strong connection to the force overall
     
  24. Davak24

    Davak24 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ahsoka's Tano

    They're acting like he's something truly special.
     
  25. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Oct 28, 2014
    Ezra is my least favorite characters on Rebels, but I'm still open to give him a chance and for his character to develop. It was really him that made me apprehensive on the new series as a whole, but the other characters, especially Hera and her chemistry with Kanan, that helped me appreciate it more.