Discussion Fan Fic Pet Peeves?

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction and Writing Resource' started by alienyouthct, Jul 30, 2002.

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  1. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    My pet peeve is getting reviews saying what I am writing is unrealistic because there is no way these SW characters would be so stupid...but I am having the characters doing almost exactly what they did in the profics. Face it, in the profics they did stuff that didn't make much sense at all. Mara going off to face a Sith alone, Luke and Mara allowing Ben to become part of the GAG secret police, sending Anakin and a bunch of other kids on what turned out as a suicide mission, ignoring Jacen's odd behavior after they knew he spent months being tortured. Can anybody really read the profics and say their actions are completely reasonable? Why should a fanfic be bound by common sense then?
  2. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    Because people must have the characters act the way they want to? I've just given up on writing them the way people want...I own every episode of Stargate, if I say they act this way, then they darn well do!!


    (I say SG since I like it more than SW, and I am horrid at SW fics :p )
  3. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    I wrote something like that once in the Author's Comments after a flaming review over at FFN. I said "THIS IS AU! That means if I want Palpatine and Darth Vader to break out in song like they are on an episode of Glee...I can do that!" I have never had any problems with reviews here, but FFN they don't have the same "No Critique" policy as this place does.
  4. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    I get a LOT more reviews on FFN, but if anyone flames me I fight right back. Or just delete/report the review :p

    God I love that delete feature... :D
  5. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    You can delete anonymous reviews, but last I checked you cannot do the same with people who signed in. Or at least that is the way it used to be. I know things have changed in the last few months, but I haven't been able to remove a review that was totally unfair. The reviewer complained in a very nasty way that I was making fun of the SW characters. I responded, "It is listed as an AU Parody!"
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  6. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    You can only report signed reviews. Not as good, but its still something.

    Some people just take things too seriously.
  7. Valairy Scot Force Ghost

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    If the complaint is along the lines of "out of character" for a labeled AU parody, my advice is to laugh at their utter lack of comprehension and ignore it.

    If the complaint is about a more serious story, I suggest at least listening with an open mind before deciding if the complaint has ANY validity or not. Usually it's just a different POV that one has every right to ignore, but occasionally there may be a kernel of truth in there that will pull you back or a clue that you didn't set up the situation as clearly as you wished.

    I've had an emotional breakdown scene (and a romance scene) for Obi-Wan before which would be wildly OOC if I didn't take pain-staking steps (excruciatingly slow build up) to set it up so it would be IC and I've helped a fellow author "pull back" a bit some scenes that were pushing a canon character's believability (always her choices of course and input via request).
  8. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    It was labeled a parody. I got 26 reviews over at FFN and 25 reviewers thought it was funny, but one reviewer gave a flaming, F-bomb laced, angry review. It was vicious enough that I wondered about the person's sanity.
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  9. Valairy Scot Force Ghost

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    Which is exactly why I say ignore such an ignorant post (yeah, I know, easier said than done) but those you can at least laugh at. The ones that categorically state your character is OOC or your attempt at humor is anything but or your attempt at drama is sheer melodrama - those are the ones that make me question my own writing (not that I've had those specific complaints, but you get the idea).
  10. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    I have yet to have that happen to me. I'm probably lucky in that regard.
  11. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    You are lucky. I just hate it because it really screws up your muse. I sometimes don't want to finish a story after being flamed. Writing is very difficult for me. I enjoy it but it doesn't come easy.
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  12. pronker Force Ghost

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    It might make a writer develop a real tough shell, and close off to any suggestions at all ... one writer I know of doesn't post until the story's finished, specifically stating that 'don't input, because it's done already!!' [face_plain]
  13. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    Err...what's the point of posting something like that in the first place? If you don't want input...why bother posting it?
  14. pronker Force Ghost

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    It was not on the boards, but on the writer's personal LJ, so ... didn't need input? was popular enough as a writer to sail on merrily? By 'input,' *meaning suggestions to storyline*, there was a good bit of input in the form of reviews, but none otherwise, since it was finished.
  15. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    Ahh, that makes more sense :p

    I thought they didn't want any input (as in, no reviews and such).
  16. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    That makes sense. The story is done. So tell her you like it, dislike it or whatever, but don't say you should have done this. Of course for my fic Alter of Waru I was done and people kept saying they would have loved it end another way. I ended up writing two alternate endings. It worked out pretty good. But in that case there were a few ways the story could have ended and all were pretty nice endings.

    I found out that when I try to write and finish the story before posting it...I don't finish it. I need the pressure of posting to make me write. I was the type of person who started her term paper the night before it was due. I am a horrible procrastinator in that way. But when the pressure is on my OCD kicks in.
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  17. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    I'm not really a procrastinator, but I do quickly lose interest if I don't have reviews egging me on. That is probably why I only finished one fic :p
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  18. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    My new pet peeve. People who PM angry messages at you because they don't like what's going on in your story. Now I remember why I really like TFN better than FFN.
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  19. Briannakin Grand Moff Darth Fanfic Manager

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    ^ Thus why I have never posted any of my stories on FFn. Also, the whole uploading thing confuses me. I'm a copy and paste person.

    A thing that bugs me is when people expect a diary to be a work of literary art or up to par with 3rd person POV stuff. I'm currently doing a diary of a 14 year old boy - of course it's not going to be a technically wonderful piece of work - I'm going to write it like a 14 year old would.
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  20. pronker Force Ghost

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    This may have been mentioned previously, but folks who ask for a sequel when you've shot your wad in a ... one-shot ... and have marked it 'complete' not 'WIP' ... are a/flattering and b/sort of difficult to answer. It's a teensy peeve, I suppose.
  21. pronker Force Ghost

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    It seems like they could be blocked, but yeah, that first gripe from them would be a downer.
  22. Jedi_Lover Force Ghost

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    I spent some time seeing if you can block a specific people, but I could find a way.

    @pronker I would look at it as a compliment. Nobody asks for a sequel to a crappy story. I think a good majority of my stories started out as a one-shot and I was asked to continue. I get this a lot since I do the challenges. So I get a bunny and write a short story for that specific challenge. Then I agree to continue and it goes from a 7K word fic to a 70K word story.
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  23. pronker Force Ghost

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    You have my admiration for writing to a challenge! 7k to 70k, oh how those little phrases grow and grow ... well, if they didn't, wouldn't be much fun.

    Hmm, it did seem like there was a banhammer over on ffn. Maybe I could poke around tomorrow.
  24. smuggler_vola Jedi Master

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    Check out the Star Wars archive over at FFN and you'll see some good stories and some...other stories. I don't really see mine as over-the-top but people seem to like them. I just get annoyed when I'm browsing through and I see the same freaking over-used plot over...and over...and over...it gets old after two or three people have made it.
  25. pronker Force Ghost

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    Yes - and the age of many posters is apparent, as well. Simply search 'ROTS AU' and see all the variations!

    http://www.fanfiction.net/community/From_the_Top_Shelf/87245/3/0/1/

    This has some decent writing about the animated show, using its characters and settings - and a host of answers to interesting challenges.
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