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Discussion in 'Fan Fiction and Writing Resource' started by Luna_Nightshade, Nov 24, 2011.

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  1. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    I would say that it depends on the jedi especially in the time of the new order, f.ex. Tionne is not combat oriented but has show to be rather good to think around her enemies while people like Katarn are highly combat oriented but are on the other hand rather lacking in diplomatic skills

    Is not that for the old order?
     
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  2. NightWatcher91

    NightWatcher91 Jedi Knight star 2

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    That is a good point. How much difference is there in terms of ability for those of the old order and the new order? Would the old order be more focused with their training?
     
  3. Goodwood

    Goodwood Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, it depends on what era of the new order you're talking about, because for the first few training classes Luke was still trying to figure out how to apply a lot of the lessons he himself had learned throughout his participation in the Rebellion. Due to the nature of how those first hundred or so Jedi Knights of the post-Palpatine era were trained, I'd say they might not be quite as "polished" in their various techniques as a Jedi of the Clone Wars era or further back. But on the other hand, they also have a lot more experience, both collectively and individually, of life and the galaxy, so they would have had access to knowledge and experience that a Temple-raised Jedi might not. Tionne's and Kyle Katarn's respective skillsets and styles are more or less extensions of their lives before they joined the Order and trained to become Jedi, so again, you have to take such things on a case-by-case basis.

    There's some interesting dialogue in KotOR II, most of it relayed by HK-47, about how Revan felt that most Jedi were limited in what they could achieve because they didn't have the full experience of "being human" (to quote the game), and thus were never really able to truly master themselves. This meshes with Jolee Bindo's own opinions on love and attachment, and controlling one's passions. In the end, I suppose, it all comes back to nature and nurture; Jedi brought up from infancy in the Temple aren't going to have the same view of the Force and the galaxy as those who came to the Force later in life; sure those in the latter camp are more difficult to train (both for their masters and themselves), but in the end they consistently become better Jedi for it.
     
  4. NightWatcher91

    NightWatcher91 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think it would be interesting to look into this more. Really enjoying the points you two have made. Just to compare the various Order of Jedi to see how teaching changed, and what they were able to do. That could make for an interesting story.
     
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  5. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    I admit that I have not read enough from either era to really answer this but something I have noticed is that it mostly depends upon the author of the story.


    The way I see it (a.k.a. my fanon) is that the old order were probably a bit more all-rounded, both in Force skills and normal skills and had a greater understanding of Force philosophy, at the same time they seemed to have ignored many of the more powerful/grandiose techniques that we see the Tales of the Jedi–era order and new order use.

    Luke’s order on the other hand are usually a bit more specialised, at least the earliest groups, which probably comes from that most of them already had a profession before becoming jedi. They are also more combat oriented and use more powerful/grandiose techniques then the old order, probably because part of the study literature was what they could gather from Ossus and that was from TotJ-era.
    Luke’s order also show some members who have mental blocks, the Horns for example who can not use telekinesis, something that I think Yoda’s order would quickly have fixed in their students if they had begun to develop them.

    I would say that that (beside Luke who is a bonfire to other jedis torches) it is not so mush a difference of power so mush as a difference of application of it.
     
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  6. Goodwood

    Goodwood Jedi Master star 5

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    Actually, the Horn/Halcyon line was well known during Yoda's time, and famous for their inability to use telekinesis—as well as their other "special" talent; Luke mentions this in I, Jedi. So it wasn't so much a mental block as just how the Force was manifest in that bloodline, which makes sense to me at any rate.
     
  7. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    As I said: my fanon
     
  8. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Have anybody developed the culture/look/daily life/feel/animal life of Balmorra, Munto Codru and/or Metellos and are you willing to share?
     
  9. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    have anybody any fanon regarding the kiffar and/or Kiffu?
     
  10. Chyntuck

    Chyntuck Force Ghost star 5

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    I've got some bits and pieces, but I haven't typed it up yet. What sort of stuff are you looking for?
     
  11. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    mostly cultur or similar, I have a kiffar character in my mind and would like to have something that makes her more then just another spacer
     
  12. Chyntuck

    Chyntuck Force Ghost star 5

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    I'll send you some, but next week :)
     
  13. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    thanks :)
     
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  14. Raissa Baiard

    Raissa Baiard FFoF Artist Extraordinaire star 4 VIP - Game Host

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    Does anyone know of mild oaths in the GFFA, something along the lines of "crud" or "darn"? I know kriffing and shavit, but my naive Alderaanian princess would probably wash her own mouth out with soap if she ever said them!
     
  15. Chyntuck

    Chyntuck Force Ghost star 5

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    Have a look at this: List of phrases and slang on the Wook.
     
  16. Briannakin

    Briannakin Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Like curse words? Here's a pretty long list of curses/phrases: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_phrases_and_slang But some of the more 'milder ones' (IMO) that I can think of are fierfek and heck.
     
  17. skygawker

    skygawker Jedi Knight star 3

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    "Stang," "haja," and "blast" come to mind as milder ones.
     
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  18. ThreadSketch

    ThreadSketch Jedi Master star 4

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    "Stang" is actually an Alderaanean cuss, IIRC.
     
  19. madman007

    madman007 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sithspawn comes to mind, too
     
  20. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Minions of Xendor is a classic
     
  21. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    I would say that it fully depend on where, when and what culture and economical situation we are talking about. For example so can I see Han Solo and his kind doing their laundry by having around ten pairs of the same kind of clothes that they change into when the privies pair get dirty and then dump it all at the SW equivalence of a Chinese laundry when in port.
     
  22. ThreadSketch

    ThreadSketch Jedi Master star 4

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    Lol, yeah, that's true. In this case, I'm truly thinking of the average, middle-class person's equivalent of a home washer/dryer. Preventative coatings on clothing has already been mentioned in a few places - such as Mara thinking about how Karrde supplies all his workers with high-quality jumpsuits that repel everything in VotF - but I think that'd be less likely to be a feature included in things like home linens (unless those are marketed to families, who will always have messy kids, heh). I figure advanced technology would still offer something like a washing machine for bulkier textiles, and right now the forward-thinkers are considering going as waterless as possible. However, all the spacey-sounding ideas seem kind of like they won't work well, lol. I have yet to see anything REALLY novel.

    Thanks for dragging this discussion over here, by the way. :)
     
  23. Goodwood

    Goodwood Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, the way Star Trek handles it is to just use replicator technology to "recycle" everyday clothes, reconstituting them anew and wholly clean. But since Star Wars doesn't have that kind of tech, I can only assume that other approaches would have to be made. And since concerns about water supplies while aboard ship (emergency situations notwithstanding, obviously) hasn't been an issue of any note at all in the SW universe, one can only assume that waterless washing isn't necessarily the proscribed route. Interestingly, nobody even mentions how refreshers actually work, only making notes when things are otherwise different to the norm ("A refresher course." —Derek "Hobbie" Klivian, Starfighters of Adumar).

    In short, it's an unexplored area ripe for fanon! :D
     
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  24. ThreadSketch

    ThreadSketch Jedi Master star 4

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    TBH, I've actually found this idea for a new loo interesting for the GFFA. (Apologies for the silliness of Daily Mail, but it was the best I could find for this particular article. :p) Not only because of the whole "squatting" trendiness, but because it's quite space-saving. I could see that working in most human-oriented starship 'freshers, as well as dirtside ones.

    And I have officially taken this thread as low as it can go. [face_laugh]
     
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  25. Goodwood

    Goodwood Jedi Master star 5

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    Nah, I can take it lower.

    CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!
     
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