FanForce Europe Meeting - 2004

Discussion in 'Europe General Archive' started by WhiteHorse, Aug 4, 2003.

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  1. emilsson Force Ghost

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    With more than one day it would be possible to have a regular city day and one day with activities mixing people. Something like mac's idea.
  2. WhiteHorse Force Ghost

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    The idea sounds nice. But when i go to a international city i also like to know it a bit. To see the better and most beautifull things it possesses. To explore. It's more thrilling to me. If not, what's the diference between going thousands of Km (not to mention the money spent) if its going to be like being inside my own country/city?

    Do you know what i mean?
    Of course ppl go also to meet each other. But for me i would go for both, to be with friends and meet the ppl, and also at the same time explore a place together, that is new to most of us! And that will create more memories, not only of the ppl i've meet but also of the place / city i visited. If not it's like going to a convention.. You are stuck to the same place. You travel from far away, and dont get to visit the city you are in. And that detail for me is just sad. (doens't mean i dont like the meeting anyway or that i won't go. But its nevertheless a thumb down in my mind/joy)
  3. emilsson Force Ghost

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    As I said we can do both.

    What happened in Paris was that French tended to socialise with French, Germans did the same...if we have an international meeting the point must be to get to know members from other FanForce chapter. (I'm not criticising, things would probably have been different with less rain)

    Playing games on a beach is a good idea since it opens up for mixing chapter members.

    Then we can go exploring sights.
  4. MARCOLAS FF France North CR - FanForce Logo Designer

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    The idea sounds nice. But when i go to a international city i also like to know it a bit. To see the better and most beautifull things it possesses. To explore.

    It depends of the place, actually.
    I don't think there's things to explore in Marbella for example. But in Barcelona, or Madrid, on the contrary, we must visit ;)
  5. Morgaine Ex-Manager

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    "The idea sounds nice. But when i go to a international city i also like to know it a bit. To see the better and most beautifull things it possesses. To explore."

    That's exactly why I suggested Mallorca, actually. ;)
    I agree with Flo/MacCaffrey that it would be nice to go on a holiday next year, not on a sight-seeing tour. Paris was great the way it was, and I really appreciate that the French showed us around. :)

    But next time, I'd like to spend more time with the people instead of the sights. :p I think it's unrealistic to assume that we'll manage to meet for more than a few days, for time and money reasons. And that's just too short to do both. I didn't even get to talk to everyone just once in Paris, because there was just so much to do/see.
    We (the GSFF) did a trip to the sea last year, and it was great. :D I'd like to do something like that with the rest of Europe too. ;)

    It doesn't have to be Mallorca, of course - I'm not too thrilled about all that tourists there either. It was just the first thing that came to mind, and it shouldn't be too expensive either. :) (And I'd like to note that the clichés about Mallorca always come from people who've never been there, while those who have visited the island always liked it, from my experience.)
    But I know that in a metropolis, we'll always be too busy to just relax and enjoy ourselves...
  6. MacCaffrey VIP

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    Malin and Marc got it right. It depends on where you are going. If you are meeting in an international city it would be sin not to take a closer look at it and explore it. That's the point of the idea is to leave such a big city and look for maybe a beach or something like that and a small town near by to visite.

    And the main reason for me for this meeting was to get contact to the people I see online. Paris was a nice bonus true, but I would have come anyway, if it would be some small town somewhere as long as there were good ways to get there and a place to sleep.

    And I thought of our last summer meeting when I thought of the Idea, Julia! :D
  7. WhiteHorse Force Ghost

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    I agree that time is short to do both. The time is already too short and doesn't all to show all the main stuff.
  8. emilsson Force Ghost

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    As I see it, the maximum of meeting length would lie around 2 nights. Even if we go sightseeing, I suggest doing few things in depth rather than rushing around.
  9. LaYa_ Jedi Grand Master

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    I would like that the meeting was in Lisbon.. Like that, I would go because I live in Portugal... But, well I agree with Mac's idea too... Decide ppl! :)



    p.s.: i didn't appear at the meeting 2003 because I couldn't. I'm deeply sorry :(
  10. Skiara ~• Manager WNU •~ ~• RSA FFC •~

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    I completly agree with Morgaine and Mac! :)

    Paris was really great! :D But the idea of holidays is really good and I would love it. :)
    Most of the time relaxing or gaming at the beach and a bit sight-seeing (if there are really some must-seen sights ;) )... *dreams* ;) :)
  11. ChimealHeltei FanForce Chapter Rep

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    I think, we shouldn't compare a FanForce Europe meeting with our (GSFF's) meeting on Borkum.
    "Holiday Meetings" (if you want to call it so ;)) are IMHO only possible with people that know each other a little bit better - like on Borkum.
    And I'd like to remind, that there are a few people, who don't know anyone of us yet. Perhaps new people would feel uncomfortable to be forced to speak with each other, but even don't know anyone at the beginning of the meeting. Or they just don't want to come...
    I'm not sure if a all-day-long-lying-at-the-beach-meeting is the best thing for us... It will be just the second meeting, for some people the first...
    "How can we have the faintest idea of what to expect?" Grant, Jurassic Park
    (Ok, that maybe sounds a little bit to hard, but you get the point... ;))
  12. Morgaine Ex-Manager

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    But isn't that the point of a FanForce Meeting? To get to know each other? ?[face_plain] I thought it was. :)
  13. gaiatha Jedi Grand Master

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    I'd like to add to chimeal's post, that every FanForce should get a chance to show the other FanForces their country. That's what a european meeting is all about, I thought...

    I don't think we need to have the FanForce of Portugal or Spain to organise us a beach holiday.

    If some of you already linked the idea of the next meeting with beach, why don't we go to Barcelona for example? It's a really beautiful city and as somebody already added, it has a beach (or two, I don't know exactly :p)

    For my part it's not enough to spend a weekend on the beach. If I go to a (for me) foreign country, I would like to see something of the country (or city).
    I agree that we don't have to rush from one sight to another with no time to relax and get to know each other better.
    But it can't be satisfying for the foreign FanForces and also the Home FanForce just to lie on the beach.

    That's what I had to say...I hope you get my point and nobody feels too much critizised.
    Just my opinion. :)
  14. Morgaine Ex-Manager

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    No offense taken. :)

    I do see your point. I love to travel and explore other contries/cities myself.

    But it looks like we have different expectations of FF meetings. For me, it's all about the people. I don't really care where the meeting is, as long as the right people are there. ;) I only want to go to the south because the weather is better there (hopefully). :p

    Sure, we can choose a destination that has both sights and a beach, like Barcelona. But as someone said above, we won't have the time to do both - and it would be sad if the group split up to do different things.


    I think before we decide on a place to meet, we should first determine what kind of meeting we want. :D
  15. Kdace RSA Emeritus

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    We can also rent a big villa in some sunny place, mix every european FanForce in it, hide some cameras and see what happen... :p
  16. Morgaine Ex-Manager

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    LOL, now that's a great idea! :p
  17. Nwalme Jade Ex(patriated) RSA

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    K : That's what we did in Grenoble, minus the cameras - look what happened ;)





    It was a wicked week end actually.
  18. Kdace RSA Emeritus

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    in fact there was a camera! :D
  19. WhiteHorse Force Ghost

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    Do tell about that wicked weekend! :p
    "The Big Brother - FanForce Europe special"
    :p That would prove interesting to see. Even more than the normal big brothers (just really watched the first edition, the others i lurked from month to month, was not very interested.)

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    In topic:
    I prefer to see(or show) a city than spending the time in the beach. All ppl above said valid points. All are valid.

    Some go for the ppl ony, others want to know the city/country.

    For me, one complements the other. And that's what makes it atractive to me. And Yes more time should be used... So that ppl can have more time to know each other and be less shy, more time relaxing from his/her rotine day, and being able to enjoy more and see more the other country. Thus my suggestion of instead of a person only spending 1 day of his week holidays. Spending 2: (Thursday and Friday).

    Btw, just to make choices clear to ppl. Lisboa, also has beaches. But i guess with colder waters than Barcelona. ("Atlantic ocean" beach vs "Mediteran Sea" beach).
    Lisboa is located at the end of the Tagus River ("Rio Tejo") having both the river and the Ocean. [image=http://www.priberam.pt/Diciopedia/imagens/lisboa.gif]
    Place from were in the 15th century Portuguese Caravels departed to explore the unexplored sea. :D [image=http://www.lepanto.org.br/Carvw2.jpg]
  20. gaiatha Jedi Grand Master

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    I really did'nt know that Lissabon is so close to the see... [face_blush]

    So, my choice is made! I'd really love to go to Lissabon and I'd love to swim in the atlantic ocean (I never did before). :D

    IMHO it would be great, if we could mix between beach and city. So there would be something for nearly everyone... :)
  21. WhiteHorse Force Ghost

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    "I'd really love to go to Lissabon and I'd love to swim in the atlantic ocean (I never did before)."

    LOL, and I only swimed in the mediterran sea once, in the Italian Sicily island in a beach near the airport next to the Etna vulcano. Quite a view...

    And believe, much warmer! :p
    You don't want to try the cold water of the atlantic! :p
    I don't know how it is in the rest of the world. But the water temperature works in inverse of terran temperature. For example, the water of the ocean beaches reaches 19C in the winter. But, in the summer... They are cold. And i mean COLD! :p Did i say Cold? Yeah... Cold. REally cold, cold. Good thing the body can ajust. But don't eat anything before going into it. It would stop your digestive system, and create real problems.

    Yeah you have a city, a european capital, you have the beaches, the ocean, the river (large one, several times the width of the one in Paris), and lots to see. So you have all to fit most of all likes/desires. Lisbon is a pretty city to see. But i think Paris is more well treathed tough. Really love Paris. Barcelona, never went there, so i can't talk about it, but i can say i've always heard great coments about it. :) So i wouldn't mind if Barcelona gets to be the one to host the next meeting.

    And has told before, despite Lisbon ofering both a city to explore and beaches. I must say that 2 nigths are not enough to visit Lisbon (only) even more if one plans going to the beach for a day or 2. Knwoing this is why i'm suggesting a 3 night ff meeting. It would be worth it. You would gain 50% more enjoyment. And for just a mere more little percentage of the money you will spend making the trip anyway. In other words, the payment of another night in the youth hotel. Which is about 10 to 15 euros. You do the math. It's worth it. Just reserve 2 days of your work holidays instead of 1. This way we can try to please both tendencies and not seperate the group (which makes no logic).
  22. AmberGold Jedi Knight

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    It's not work that would be the problem, I can't take the time off of University
  23. WhiteHorse Force Ghost

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    at wish date does your univ goes to vacations?
  24. AmberStarbright Jedi Grand Master

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  25. WhiteHorse Force Ghost

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    So why not making the meeting in August?
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