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Discussion in 'Literature' started by The Loyal Imperial, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. Darth_Henning

    Darth_Henning Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh daymn. That's a major K-wing nerf. Disappointing, they'll be a lot weaker in competition now with the deactivated weapons.

    Not sure it affects SLAM otherwise though, most ships using it aren't bombers anyway.
     
  2. TheRedBlade

    TheRedBlade Jedi Master star 4

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    It will need a quick repaint to turn that unsightly black trim back to the traditional red, but otherwise I'm thrilled. Once we find out the costing on the non-Kylo Silencers, I'm excited to put together a LucasArts' Revenge list of a Defender, Gunboat, and TIE Avenger Silencer.
     
  3. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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  4. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    It's unfortunate that the Silencer means we'll definitely never get an Avenger, though. :(


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
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  5. Darth_Henning

    Darth_Henning Jedi Master star 4

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    Not impossible, but definitely no time soon.

    I think EU-wise, Hunter, Droid and Scimitar are the next likely ones in no particular order
     
  6. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    So long as there's no Stealth-X, I'm happy.

    If there's a YT2000, I'm VERY happy though.
     
  7. Darth_Henning

    Darth_Henning Jedi Master star 4

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    What's wrong with a Stealth-X? Rebels do kinda need a ship with cloak (as do scum).

    I want my Blasted Skipray dang it.
     
  8. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    It was a lazy deus ex machina/crutch by a fifth-rate writer too lazy to create inventive solutions to problems?

    Everything about it was bad.

    YT2000 by contrast is glory. It's also in Fly Casual! So maybe, one day, pls FFG?

    Edit: oooh, customs:

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  9. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Man, tie names are getting too poetic.

    In my days, TIEs were named after their tactical roles - what is wrong with having some of those with a Mk2 or model-G or something.

    /oldman
     
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  10. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The YT-2000 is hideous. I hated having to fly it in XWA.

    I was happy with the classic YT-1300, even if technically inferior.
     
  11. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    You're hideous. [face_plain]

    Take dead Emperor:

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  12. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Was it the ship, or the fact that the pilot was a Rebel from the merchant class?
     
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  13. Darth_Henning

    Darth_Henning Jedi Master star 4

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    Huh. I'm not seeing it. But each to their own.

    Stealth fighters with propulsion-less bombing technology have been around for years in the real world. The Stealth-X seemed a natural fit in Star Wars to me to fill that role.
     
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  14. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    The Stealth-X wasn't really poorly conceptualized - except perhaps in the sense of being a X-Wing variant instead of a new starfighter - but it was very poorly executed.
     
  15. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    But it's not fantasy, and that's the problem. I hated things like Luceno's X-box thing in Millenium Falcon or the war on terror allegories in LOTF. It's taking WWII style fighters and making them 1970/80s craft, like the "Frisbee" in Red Storm Rising.
     
  16. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Master star 4

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    Ah, "How much 'real world' things is it acceptable to have in Star Wars?" the never ending battle.

    On the one hand, characters having cell phones or modern slang like "bad ass" can feel out of place.

    On the other hand:

    "This jackass just said that something can go "through a ferrocrete bunker like a neutrino through plasma." I get it, man. It says Star Wars on the cover. I know I'm reading about Star Wars. It's like, do they not have butter in space? Or hot knives to cut it with?" -Gabe, Penny Arcade
     
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  18. Darth_Henning

    Darth_Henning Jedi Master star 4

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    I agree that the political allegories don't belong.

    But If you look at the starfighter combat in Star Wars its very strongly based on WWII era dogfights which simply do not occur anymore, and most likey wouldn't in an era where there were starfighters either. As such, the extension seems perfectly reasonable to me
     
  19. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    Ok sure but TFA showed the official version of events, and it correctly shows stagnant tech development. Bad authors will try and extrapolate tech change in SW based on tech change since WWII here, without realising a) it's fantasy, not sci-fi and b) they're at a peak tech setting, as KOTOR/SWTOR showed us. Tech is literally background, not foreground here (like it is in Trek). And TFA's battles were still WWII style dog fights. Having things that mirror Predator drones and stealth technology is shoehorning stuff in that doesn't belong.

    And, it was done because the author was lazy and not especially talented and couldn't think of a creative way around the problem in, Dork Nest I think it was, where they had to fly their invisible fighters past some sort of giant spotlight which Jacen then shut off with the Force. That's entirely, right there, why the EU needed to die. But, another discussion.

    I would never let my players near a Stealth-X if the RPG for some reason took a quality dive and did stats for it. If you want to get close to a target, guys, you'll have to think of a creative plan or just wing it and hope for the best.
     
  20. Ender Sai

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  21. Giovs

    Giovs Jedi Knight star 3

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    I've been having great fun with my friends with the Star Wars FFG RPG system in the last 10 months or so.
    Or old D&D DM, now a player in my campaing, is in love with the Star Wars dices.
    Too bad we can't play as often as we would like too!
     
  22. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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  23. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Man, I hope that seventh wave of Armada is on track for delivery by EOY. I've been dying to get my hands on the Profundity, plus I've been playing Rebellion so much that I am ready to switch back to Armada.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  24. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I need to order the new wave of Armada. I preordered the new wave of X-Wing, but not Armada yet for once. Spent too much money on 40K at the moment, and going to be spending more soon :(
     
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  25. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Are you gonna get one of each? I don't really see the need to get two of the Chimera, but I am kinda tempted to get a pair of MC75's. I need to play soon with the Hammerheads and light carrier, as I'm not sure if I want more of them for game purposes (though the collector in my loves more ships, lol).

    --Adm. Nick