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Lit [Fantasy Flight Games] Because it just keeps getting better

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The Loyal Imperial, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. Jedi Princess

    Jedi Princess Jedi Master star 3

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    Even though it's a decade later, I feel like Solo gives us our first glimpse of this era, with dystopian Corellia and the Clone Wars-era battles on Mimban never really ended.
     
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  2. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Master star 4

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    Be nice in the next release of the B-wing that we get a canon name for Blue Leader since Blue Squadron has only one confirmed member in canon - Blue Five Ten Numb (two if Black Series release of Blue Seven Palso Thern is official). But that's asking for too much I suppose. They seem to have focused on Blade Squadron - with its four confirmed members at Endor - then any other B-wing squadron at the battle.
     
  3. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    So... still no Armada announcements. One way or another. I keep hoping for one in June/July, which would correspond to a Christmas release. [face_praying]

    Honestly, the only two things I truly want are the Dornean gunship and the U-wing. Preferably as a pack. That would literally complete the Rebel ships from the films, save the wingless Liberty, which in reality would be cool but is entirely unnecessary.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  4. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    Apologies for the delayed reply; we had a long weekend here for Her Maj's birthday and I tend not to post at weekends.

    We did Vader and Maul. The issue I have - and it's documented here - is that the base statline for the NPCs in the book is just unattainably high, making the players less special than they once were. It's usually a 4 4 5 3 3 2 or similar, which is insane.

    Vader's unbeatable at even 500 earned XP. Maul is doable though.
    More like fourteen to nineteen years in, isn't it, given its coverage of Rebels and R1? I'm imagining a campaign set very much before that - same general idea as DoR I suppose, but tweaked as described above - a galaxy freshly ravaged by the Clone Wars, where the fire of hope hasn't been lit yet and things are pretty much as bleak as we'll ever see in a Star Wars setting. That's more than enough right there to make an interesting era book out of.
     
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  5. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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  7. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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  8. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    IMO, while the WEG 'fluff' material is pretty much evergreen and worth mining by anyone, as a game system I think the FFG family is more refined and polished. That said, I do think it's probably a better choice to ease in players who are used to more crunchtastic tactical problem-solving RPGing than Star Wars should be - which is an issue that's come up occasionally in this thread before.
     
  9. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    No. I really wish the usual Lit crowd who buy books but have no intent to play would leave this alone as it's a piece of RPG history and a lot of players would like to get it to relive memories of the D6 system.

    As @Vthuil has rightly said, the FFG narrative gaming system is a better SW gaming experience. If you want the crunch, I'd go Saga though over D6.
     
  10. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    With any luck we should be getting the 30th anniversary edition right around the game's 31st anniversary...
     
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  11. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    Right?
     
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  12. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Master star 4

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    Who cares why they want it, let people buy what they want to buy, no need to be The Fun Police. Heck I've considered getting it just because like you said, it's a piece of history. It isn't often is a 30 year old out of print book re released after all.
     
  13. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    Because it's a limited print aimed at gamers, so why buy it if you're not going to play it? Just so there's one thing more to hang onto from the corpse of Legends? I mean, I know people will buy it because of their sad, sad obsessive need to try and not understand the WEG/RPG stuff at all but still.
     
  14. KerkKorpil

    KerkKorpil Jedi Padawan star 1

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    It was supposed to be my birthday present. Most likely will be my next years birthday present.


    Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk
     
  15. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Because someone wants to own it. No need to justify it to anyone.
     
  16. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe you want to read and enjoy the fluff? Maybe you're a collector? Maybe you had a copy years ago and want to reacquire/replace it for sentimental/nostalgic reasons? Maybe you'll want to run/play a game eventually?

    So what if someone wants to get something that's tied into the Legends iteration of the franchise? I've gotten a few Legends novels after the Disney buyout and re-read many more of them since the de-canonization. Good stories/materials are good stories/materials, irregardless of their canonicity.

    Besides, the fluff can always be revised if one wants to run a canon-compliant game. There are more than a few fan supplements online for incorporating post-WEG materials into the WEG format and anyone can invent their own templates.

    I've learned to not assume that I know why people want or don't want things; the answers can sometimes be surprising. Besides, the point of a game is for the owners and players to have fun. If they accomplish that through an unconventional route or by using the game in a way the creators didn't intend, the game has still fulfilled its only purpose for existing.
     
  17. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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  18. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Have they added TIE/rb heavies?
     
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  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Not yet. Maybe (since the Solo movie version of the Falcon was announced only a few days ago) they'll be included in a "Solo wave".
     
  20. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Alas, I do get these for the info and the art. And the Muuns. I guess I need to leave home and rethink my life.
     
  21. Darth_Henning

    Darth_Henning Jedi Master star 4

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    As I had already acquired originals of these I had entirely intended to skip the re-release.

    But now, as part of *ahem* the usual Lit crow who buy books but have no intent to play, I'm honestly tempted to order a couple dozen of the "limited release" books and donate them to libraries in small towns around my city. Anyone else want to do the same?
     
  22. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Come on, you guys - haven't you noticed the large red "GAMERS ONLY" warning label they slap on the covers of these? Don't you know your FLGS runs an extensive background check to ensure that only RPG gamers buy these books, and then ONLY for purely gaming purposes? Either buy these books for Ender-approved reasons, or don't buy them. FFG will be notified of any future infractions.
     
  23. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Ender... we've warned you before not to demean or insult peoples reasons or motivations for purchasing a product. People can enjoy a product however they want, you are not allowed to pass judgement or make snide comments about their choices. This is the last friendly warning.

    Now, let's get back to lighting candles and praying for new releases from FFG for Armada... ;)

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  24. Dominick1216

    Dominick1216 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Just curious, but is the FFG material considered canon?
     
  25. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Generally speaking, no. Most FFG-only stuff, Wookieepedians put on Legends pages.