Discussion in 'Community' started by Legolas Skywalker, Dec 31, 2012.
Ummm, no, not the plot. The film changes the wording of Trelawney's prophecy, which were very carefully chosen and cuts out the backstory of the Marauders.
anyone remember this
You never know. Just saying
"Ummm," yes, including the plot, which as a film adaptation of the source material is not tied to it by some immutable law. The movie stands on its own as a classic for the ages, it's under no obligation to disclose minor sub-plots from an expansive series of books featuring hundreds of minor characters. Anyway if we're paying attention we learn later that Sirius is Padfoot (OotP), that Peter is Wormtail (GoF), and that the four were close friends (I forget which movie this is shown in). Insofar as it matters to the plot of the film series (which is about Harry Potter and not hundreds of minor characters), it's not a stretch to deduce that James (a Stag) was Prongs and Lupin (a Werewolf) was Moony, and that those four made the map.
As to Trelawney's prophecy, again it's an adaptation. Material is going to be excised. The key elements of the prophecy were retained, and expanded on in OotP.
I should see PoA again sometime, but Deathly Hallows rises far above it in my mind, particularly Part I. Getting away from Hogwarts is essential to its success, and its slower, more understated pace is much more to my liking than most of the rest of the series. That the main actors are all adults by then also helps.
I dunno. I personally felt that PoA just jumped around too much and focused on a lot of characters I didn't care about. Too many introductions, not enough reason to care.
Yeah. Didn't go into the Marauders. How on Earth are they not important? One is Harry's Father, another is his Godfather, an uncle and the man who betrayed them. Not important? What are you smoking? That's one of the highlights of the book. Instead we got a Shrunken head
Yeah, it's Cuaron's offbeat and individual sense of humour that gives that film more personality than, well, 90% of modern tentpole films.
I really didn't like Deathly Hallows 2, but mostly because I enjoyed the book and had high expectations. They modified too many important moments, and in doing so slightly changed Harry's character IMO. Also, I'm still upset that some of my friends who haven't read the books got the impression that Snape was Harry's father.
I wish they didn't have Bellatrix explode. Voldemort's fate was alright but there should have been people watching. I liked that they extended the battle. I hated that they made Snape hug Lily in that memory. I hate Snape. If I was Lily I would not forgive him
The hell is wrong with Snape. The things he could do with that nose.
The only reasons I tolerate Snape are because of Alan Rickman and Joe Moses
I thought that moment was one of the best in the movies...
Best movie is Prisoner of Azkaban. My favorite however is Goblet of Fire.
And I for one love snape, but mainly because of Rickman. The one little memory sequence in DH2 should be enough for anyone wondering why Rickman is a superb actor. I almost got up an clapped in the theatre after that.
No doubt Rickman is great as Snape but I can't really feel sympathetic to Snape.
He's very flawed, but that's what make him such a great character.
Indeed. He is the most dynamic character in the series
I think it does a good job of getting the point across since they couldn't show every single memory Harry saw. However, during the conversation with Dumbledore, Harry says, "Professor, my mother's Patronus was a doe, wasn't it? It's the same as Professor Snape's. It's curious, don't you think?" To which Dumbledore replies, "Actually, if I think about it, it doesn't seem curious at all." Why they chose to include this baffles me, because the phrasing makes people think that there was something romantic between the two. What isn't made clear is that Lily's patronus is a doe because of James Potter. Snape shares it, despite his love for Lily being unrequited.
And I agree that Snape is one of the best characters in the series, albeit far from the most likeable.
Deathly Hallows Part 1. Even though it is mostly set-up, it is done so well, it really takes the time to delve into these characters while they're camped out, while also allowing us to have the action scenes supplied by the undercover mission into the Ministry. The animation of the Deathly Hallows story has also always stuck out to me as cool and unique. I particularly love the moment where Harry and Hermione dance in the tent, which captured friendship about as purely as I have ever seen it on film.
I completely agree with all of that. The animation sequence is really minimalist in its execution, yet also rather original.
Harry Potter 1-7 - We all hate you Snape
Harry Potter 8 - Snape u are awesome
Severus Snape is an utterly brilliant subversion of what I call the "Scooby Doo Villain" trope. Think about it: these started out as "kids' books," and for the sinister-looking jerk who despised the protagonist turn out to not only not be the villain, but actually is helping the protagonist? Outstanding!
Also, I'll chime in as another one who shakes his fist at the editorial decision to leave out the importance of the Marauders' identities in PoA. Sure, they explain later that Wormtail = Pettigrew and Padfoot = Black, leaving you to infer the identities of Moony and Prongs, but that's what...two movies later? But the biggest problem with the omission is that you don't get that they all became Animagi as a show of solidarity with their friend, that they're incredibly talented wizards to have been able to become Animagi in secret, and just think about the level of skill they had to have in order to have created the Marauders Map...
that was one of the things I liked most about the book version of Order of the Pheonix. In the book you really get to spend more time with the characters that make up the order to the point, and they feel more like fully developed characters. Almost, but not quite, to where it almost feels like it is as much their story as it is Harry's. Even more so the memory sequence where Harry gets into Snapes thoughts and we get this little short story about what Harry's dad and friends were like as kids.
Almost makes me wish she'd go back and do prequel books telling these people's story.