Arena Federer Era - Not Over Yet!

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  1. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    The Nadal freight train rolls on-- he won handily today.

    It would be a bit ironic if the true lasting rivalry of this era ended up being Nadal vs. Djokovic. Truth be told, once Nadal got going, Federer just wasn't good enough to beat him anymore. I think that would have been true even at Federer's peak. If you were to create a player specifically to counter Federer's strengths, Nadal is who you would create.

    Also, this echoes many of my thoughts over the years:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...al-is-the-leonardo-da-vinci-of-tennis/279383/
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    yeah, this will be the 37th time nadal and djokovic have faced each other, the most of any two players in the modern era. and they've been very closely matched, especially in the last few years. of course, a lot of the future of their rivalry rests on rafa's knees. but we should at least get a great match on monday. i'm getting off work early to watch it. looking forward to it more than any match this year.

    i don't really agree with your analysis about rafa's rivalry with federer though. i don't think it's right to blame roger's decline for nadal's dominance. to me fed's level didn't really drop off until this year. it's just that the other players in the top four worked incredibly hard on improving their game and their fitness to the point where they were able to catch up to him. and also nadal hasn't been all that dominant head to head against federer if you subtract their record on clay courts where nadal dominates everyone.
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  3. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    This second set is incredible.
  4. tom Chosen One

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    that was great fight from vika in that set, helped by a little tightness from serena. i'm not happy with the result, but at least it was a memorable match.
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    definitely ditched class so i could watch this with my girlfriend. i've been looking forward to this all weekend!
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  8. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    I really wish I could watch this. So far, this tournament seems like Nadal's "( ) you" to everyone who thinks he's just a clay court specialist. I'm not sure how many of those people are left, given his two Wimbledon titles and the two hard court Slams he's already won, but they're out there.

    Of course, Djokovic could easily come back and win the next three sets.
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  9. tom Chosen One

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    you can watch it here josh.

    http://www.usopen.org/index.html

    lots of great stuff in the second set. rafa came out on fire but he's pushed djokovic to another level.
  10. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Thank you much for the link-- can't really sit down for long to watch it, unfortunately.
  11. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    That was a fantastic point.
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    I don't think Nadal is just a clay player, but given how often he is injured I thought he would restrict himself simply to competing on clay.

    I'm glad to see he is back, I hope he can stay fit and win for Grand Slams outside of the French Open. Maybe even try to beat Federer's overall titles record
  13. tom Chosen One

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    nadal looks to be in serious trouble now.
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  14. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    I can't believe Nadal won that set. Djokovic started that one off great.
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    And there is #13 for Rafa.
  16. tom Chosen One

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    rafa!!!!

    this is where i admit that this was my attempt to reverse jinx nadal. it worked, lol. just a relentless performance from rafa. i actually felt like he didn't have his best tennis for a lot of the match, but he just never takes a point off, keeps getting every ball back and eventually it wears down the psyche of his opponent.

    i really like novak too. it was a pity that he couldn't recover from dropping that third set. i would have loved to see more the magic that these two can create when they play each other. still a good final, if not an all-time classic like their australian final in 2012 or their semi at the french this year.
  17. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Nadal is awesome! What a match. I think those guys who were yelling throughout the match (especially that one guy on Championship Point) should be publicly flogged.
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  19. heels1785 SWC Jedi Draft Commissioner

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    Not a fan of either champion, but all in all, this was a great Open. On to Australia.
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  21. tom Chosen One

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    i don't understand how people root against nadal. he's genuinely humble, incredibly hard working, and plays some of the most exciting tennis the world has ever seen. is it because he pulls on his shorts so much?
  22. siha Jedi Master

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    He seems to be a good guy and he's fantastic on the court. Plus, dat ass.
  23. tom Chosen One

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    i wish just once when a lady yells right before he's going to serve, that novak would walk over to her, point his finger menacingly, and say, "is novak djokovic going to have to choke a *****?"
  24. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    I think Nadal's coming back from being down triple break point to win the third set is his greatest moment so far as a professional tennis player. His most difficult opponent was about to get the chance to serve for the third set. Nadal yanked the game away from Djokovic and then quickly broke him for the set and effectively the match. What a turnaround from the 2012 Australian Open, when Nadal was a bad shot away from perhaps winning the title, not to mention 2011 at Wimbledon and the US Open.

    Along with humility and an all-around grace that is overshadowed by Roger Federer's iconic playing style, I most appreciate Nadal's unrelenting nature. Jimmy Connors put it best when he said that Nadal plays like he's broke, except of course that he's not. What must it take for someone to be that rich and to still compete at your best, and then improving on top of that. Michael Jordan remains the greatest athlete I've seen in my lifetime, but Nadal is pretty much there himself now. He's highly intelligent on the court, quiet off of it, and he remains seemingly as hungry as ever to win.

    The greatest athletes rise to the occasion. No one wins all the time, and Nadal lost to Djokovic over and over in 2011. Those failures set the stage for 2013, though, and his triumph at Flushing Meadows is made brighter by what happened in 2011.

    What a long way from the clay court specialist days of 2005. He couldn't win on grass, and then he did, and then he couldn't win on hard courts, and then he did, and then he did it all over again. If he wins the Australian Open again, he'll be a double Grand Slam champion (something no man has been since Laver).

    I feel like this US Open title will be remembered as his zenith.
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  25. tom Chosen One

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    nadal will return to the top of the rankings tomorrow for the first time in over two years, despite having just lost in the final of the china open to djokovic.