Arena Federer Era - Still Not Over Yet

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  1. tom Chosen One

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    hmm, well you were right. it's mostly a bummer because i think it could have been a really great match if they were both at full strength. nadal is of course pure class in all of his post-match comments.
  2. yankee8255 Chosen One

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    A rather odd conclusion to our discussion of legacies and the "best-ever" debate. Though, in a certain way somewhat fitting.
  3. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Well, I don't think it changed much. Federer is still aging, Nadal is still near his peak, and Wawrinka is unlikely to suddenly start piling up titles.
  4. tom Chosen One

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    the best ever debate would have gotten a lot more interesting if nadal had won. he still has a lot of time though and will be the huge favorite in paris obviously. i hope he can be healthy for wimbledon this year.
  5. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    Novak beat Rafa senseless yesterday at Key Biscayne. Rarely are their matches so one-sided.
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    Yeah, that was as straightforward a match between them as has ever been. I was surprised by it. I thought Rafa would have been able to fight through some of the challenges a bit more. Since the US Open, Novak has won 7 (?) straight sets against Rafa.
  7. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    Serena got dropped in straights last night, second round, to a virtual unknown down here in Charleston at the Family Circie Cup. Yikes.
  8. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    He'd trade them all for that US Open title, though.
  9. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    Two straight early exits on clay for Nadal now. I have no doubt he'll look great at the French if healthy, but that's always the most important clause when it comes to him. A bit concerning.
  10. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Very unusual. I wouldn't be surprised to see him wipe everyone out at Roland Garros, just to balance out what's been happening, but Nadal looks vulnerable for the first time in a long time. He seemed borderline invincible going into the Australian Open final, but he hasn't been the same since that back injury.
  11. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Somewhat abruptly, I think Nadal is officially on the downside of his career. Even Rafa can't be completely motivated forever, or have the energy he did in years past. If he wins Roland Garros again, it's going to be a dogfight all the way. Of course, it somehow wouldn't surprise me if he laid waste to the field, but I don't think that's going to happen.

    He's got probably two or three titles left in him and then that's going to be it.
  12. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    I agree with you, but I probably would have given the same estimate a few years ago when Rafa was really struggling with the knees.

    I think Novak will be at the top for a while, remains to be seen who steps up to join him. I don't have a ton of faith in Murray, even though I do like him.
  13. tom Chosen One

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    i don't agree. i think nadal is pretty much where he's always been, last year's amazing run aside. he's still a big favorite at the french imo. only one person has ever beaten him there. let's see someone else do it before we count him out. and while he has spent a lot of time at number one, it's not like he's ever been a huge favorite at the other majors. he's always had competition at or near his level. this is nothing new.
  14. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    I think 2-3 more titles at Roland Garros is reasonable. He'd be 31 at that point, and while any tennis fan would hope he's still going strong, its tough to say with much confidence. Clay is easiest on the knees, he has that in his favor.

    How lucky have we been, though. Going straight from Sampras/Agassi to Federer/Nadal/Djokovic. Quality of play we may not see for a long time.
  15. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    I don't know, tom. There's something different about this. Through all of his previous troubles, I never questioned whether he'd be back, and strongly. He seems to be losing a step not physically, but mentally and/or emotionally.
  16. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    Shocked that Stanislas the Manislas is done in the first round.
  17. tom Chosen One

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    you've been watching his recent matches then? i've caught a few and i just don't see any evidence of this.
  18. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    Li Na and Wozniacki gone, Lleyton Hewitt gone. All-American Name HOF'r Jack Sock defeats seeded Almagro due to injury.
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    Nadal is the king of RG but this is Djoker's year.
  20. Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus

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    I like a bold prediction as much as the next guy, but this is a very bold prediction.
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  21. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    Goodbye Serena, goodbye Venus. Anybody's game on the women's side.
  22. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    It's Cibulkova's time to shine!
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  23. Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus

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    I would like Ivanovic to win it again, but as usual she'll be lucky to make it out of the 4th round.
  24. heels1785 Community Moderator & JD Commish

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    Not if she plays like she did in Australia - if that's the case, there's nobody left in the field who can beat her. I'd say Sharapova should be the favorite, but I hope Ivanovic wins too.
  25. Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus

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    Radwanska out, leaving Kvitova and Halep the top remaining seeds. Ivanovic could have to beat both of them--if she wins her 3d round match--to get past the quarters, with everyone expecting Halep to take the whole thing.
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