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PT Film Tie In Novels vs. Movies

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by fuzzbox77, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Glad that's all been settled.:)
     
  2. Merkual

    Merkual Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakinfan: I'd agree with the emotional impact of the "this is what if feels like to be Anakin Skywalker, forever, if it wasn't over used

    now I haven't read it since it first came out, but I think Stover overused the "this is what it feels like to be a dish cloth, a droid with no legs, mace windu the guy sat at the back of the opera " etc that I ended up rolling my eyes.

    Also the inconsistencies especially Amidala being the youngest queen on Naboo etc really grate me especially if they are "line edited".

    Plagueis was an awful novel :p
     
  3. TOSCHESTATION

    TOSCHESTATION Jedi Master star 4

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    I did - especially the ROTS novelization. Like you, I bought them all prior to seeing the films upon their release.
     
  4. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    Just to clarify, I was talking about Star Wars movies, which is one of the rare exceptions where the novels are based on the movies and not the other way around.
     
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  5. PiettsHat

    PiettsHat Force Ghost star 4

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    To generalize a bit more, it's almost always the case that:

    The novel is better than the film that's based on it

    But

    The film is better than the novelization that's based on it

    Broadly speaking, I've found novels are almost always a cut above novelizations.
     
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  6. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    The Film Novelization of Revenge of the Sith is incredible. It is definitely the most definitive version of the story.
    I cannot comment on the novels of TPM and AOTC, though I would imagine they are a little better than the movies.
     
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  7. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    Yes, in general that's the case for me.

    My problem with the RotS novel, is the excessively flourished way of writing Stover uses to tell the story. I just can't stand it.
     
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  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    I have an extremely high tolerance for Purple Prose - so that sort of thing's not usually a problem for me.
     
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  9. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Stover may be guilty of.
    Pushing single sentence paragraphs.
    To increase the dramatic impact.
    However, it is a fairly melodramatic series anyway.
    So it fits.
     
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  10. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    I preferred the films over the novelizations. Which is odd, considering that I'm an avid reader.​


    I feel the same way.
     
  11. Cryogenic

    Cryogenic Force Ghost star 5

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    You often "like" my posts, so I can tell you're telling the truth. :p



    This post is full of win! [:D]
     
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  12. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer #2 Sabine Wren Fan star 7

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    We may disagree on the films but I'm with you on novel quality. I was surprised the film to book process could occur so smoothly. ROTS is my favorite, just because it builds off of Labyrinth of Evil. I remember when I was growing up I'd read those 2 like every summer. Good times :)
     
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  13. Darth Cyn

    Darth Cyn Jedi Knight star 2

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    I both read the novel and seen the film, and I'll admit, I prefer the novel.

    Novel Pros
    -deeper characterization
    -more details
    -fits anticipated mood very well

    Film Pros
    -better fights
    -music
    -not many unnecessary details

    Which one is better, your thoughts.
     
  14. Darth Dominikkus

    Darth Dominikkus Jedi Knight star 3

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    I'm a reader, so personally I love the novel for just that reason, but I love watching the films.
     
  15. Deckiller

    Deckiller Jedi Padawan

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    The novelization of Revenge of the Sith is not only in my opinion better than the movie, but it's also in the running for one of the best Star Wars novels ever (right up there with Stover's own Traitor, the five original Thrawn books, Betrayal, and a few others that spring to mind). The details are wonderful and help give us logic and motive behind a lot of what goes on in the films. Dooku gets some wonderful characterization as well. It really feels like an important piece of the EU, not a novelization.

    The characterization is unbelievable. Stover's prose invokes emotions impeccably, especially in the blunt "This is what it's like to be X" passages. I used to dislike the pacing of the book, but the more I go on the more I appreciate the lengthier first part. Why? Because it gives ue more time with an underdeveloped character like Dooku, and it makes the Obi-Wan/Anakin relationship a sizable chunk of the book. It helps us feel for what happens later, and also helps us to realize how quickly the final few events in the movie fell into place.

    Fantastic book.
     
  16. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    The book should have been longer. 1000 pages The first page which is part of my signature and the prologue are some of the best I've ever read.
    Parts of the book are better than the movie, while parts of the movie are better than the book.
    The Dooku duel was amazing in the book.
     
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  17. Kenneth Morgan

    Kenneth Morgan Chosen One star 5

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    As I've posted elsewhere, I prefer the movie. Not only do I disagree with Stover's depiction of Anakin as mentally disturbed, rather than seriously misguided, but I think directly translating Artoo's dialogue just didn't work. And I didn't buy Palpatine scaring off Kenobi immediately after the duel, when he was still far away on Coruscant while the duel was going on.

    And the "This is how it feels to be..." routine got old real fast.
     
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  18. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The opening epigraph and introduction to the novelization are worth the price of admission.
     
  19. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    It's possible to be disturbed and misguided. I have not ever finished the novel but I doubt I'd like either much though on the whole I prefer books to film.
     
  20. squir1y

    squir1y Jedi Master star 3

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    I agree. It should've been longer considering almost half of it took place in the first half hour of the movie. Seemed to focus more on the end of the war than the fall of Anakin. That's not terrible though. It makes it a good companion piece to the film which had the opposite focus.
     
  21. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    The Invisible Hand rescue was ungodly long. At least the Dooku duel was awesome to read. How is it that the rest of the duels were short in comparison? The Order 66 section was pretty cool but should have been expanded. Kashyyk as well.
     
  22. squir1y

    squir1y Jedi Master star 3

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    I agree. Although I did like the part when Palpatine issued Order 66 to Commander Cody and he thought to himself,"Couldn't the order have come down before I gave him back the bloody lightsaber?" Darkly funny.
     
  23. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    That whole Palpatine vs. the Jedi posse scene threw me off the first time I read I it. Yeah that scene was pretty funny.
     
  24. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Best line in that movie, with "General Grievous, you're shorter than I expected" being a close contender, mostly because Grievous' reaction was funny.

    But the novel had this passage:



    Obi-Wan Kenobi opened his eyes to find himself staring at what he strongly suspected was Anakin's butt.

    It looked like Anakin's butt--well, his pants, anyway--though it was thoroughly impossible for Obi-Wan to be certain, since he had never before had the occasion to examine Anakin's butt upside down, which it currently appeared to be, nor from this rather uncomfortably close range.

    And how he might have arrived at this angle and this range was entirely baffling.

    He said, "Um, have I missed something?"

    "Hang on," he heard Anakin say. "We're in a bit of a situation here."

    So it was Anakin's butt after all. He supposed he might take a modicum of comfort from that.


    [face_love] Stover is awesome. That is all.
     
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  25. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    Since I dislike Matthew Stover's writing style, I'll go with the movies.
     
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