~@~Filming fire~@~

Hey guys...


Is there any good way to film stationary fire? i need it to have a smooth background, so it can't really be on the ground, and obviously not near a wall. Or, is there any sites you know of offering this kind of clip?


I've thought about the tried and true "WD-40 in front of greenscreen" idea, to no avail.

Let me know your thoughts.


Fig

 

No dude, you don't want to film it on front of green. Film it in front of a bluescreen or better yet a blackscreen.

 

Even better use Lightwave, it can generate some beautiful fire.

Want a demo?

Pete

 

Go into the middle of a large plane on a cloudy night, build a platform off the ground, and shoot it there at night, so that the dark forms a natural blackscreen. Then when you get to compositing it, you just need to do an additive composite, as the black background will add nothing to the picture. Filming against blue/green screens would not be to good due to the natural and variable transparency of the fire.

 

Oh, absolutely. That'd be great. In fact, if you could maybe make like a five-second demo with similar first and last frames, I could prolly just loop that and use it for everything.


You will, of course, be given due credit. Thaks a bundle.


Fig

 

What resolution?

Also looping will be difficult, how about several small variations you can blend in and out?

I will try and get at least a sample of what it looks like on line tonight. I will post in this thread later.

Pete

 

Preferably ver hig, maybe 800 by (Insert proportionate 4x3 number here). But, I don't know your feelings on posting something that heavy, so you may just wanna send me it.


Multiple versions could work, or I could morph the first and last frames.


Thanks for your help.


Fig

 

I'll do some small QT movies 1st.

JPEG should be ok for final frames I ould have thought, once animated, and especially if compressed for the web.

Why 800 x whatever, and not a TV resolution?

Pete

 

That's even better, I just assumed you didn't wanna waste your webspace on little 'ol me.

Are you gonna make the JPEGs too? Cool.

Here's essentially what I need...

A flame that doesn't go outside the boundaries of it's entirely black background. Other than that, make it fairly realistic, and be creative. Have fun. Just don't screw it up.


Fig

 

You know Pete, I'd slap Fig if I were you!

anyway,

Nick "Shorty" Long

 

I have uploaded 1 file. I won't have time to create anything new until tomorrow.

You will have to join my Yahoo group.

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/petespad

It's in the files section.

Edit: Quicktime, Sorenson 3, 320x240 @ 25 fps, >600K

Edit 2: I am going to bed, so won't be able to approve your membership tonight (12:05 am here)

Pete

 

Heyo,
if you wanted to send it to me, I'd be happy to host it on my server, considering I'd also like to learn how to make realistic looking fire for my fan film.

Luke