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Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by Figrin-Dan_Man, Mar 7, 2003.

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  1. Figrin-Dan_Man

    Figrin-Dan_Man Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hey guys...


    Is there any good way to film stationary fire? i need it to have a smooth background, so it can't really be on the ground, and obviously not near a wall. Or, is there any sites you know of offering this kind of clip?


    I've thought about the tried and true "WD-40 in front of greenscreen" idea, to no avail.

    Let me know your thoughts.


    Fig
     
  2. PixelMagic

    PixelMagic Jedi Master star 5

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    No dude, you don't want to film it on front of green. Film it in front of a bluescreen or better yet a blackscreen.
     
  3. Ptx

    Ptx Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Even better use Lightwave, it can generate some beautiful fire.

    Want a demo?

    Pete
     
  4. agentgonzo

    agentgonzo Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Go into the middle of a large plane on a cloudy night, build a platform off the ground, and shoot it there at night, so that the dark forms a natural blackscreen. Then when you get to compositing it, you just need to do an additive composite, as the black background will add nothing to the picture. Filming against blue/green screens would not be to good due to the natural and variable transparency of the fire.
     
  5. Figrin-Dan_Man

    Figrin-Dan_Man Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh, absolutely. That'd be great. In fact, if you could maybe make like a five-second demo with similar first and last frames, I could prolly just loop that and use it for everything.


    You will, of course, be given due credit. Thaks a bundle.


    Fig
     
  6. Ptx

    Ptx Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What resolution?

    Also looping will be difficult, how about several small variations you can blend in and out?

    I will try and get at least a sample of what it looks like on line tonight. I will post in this thread later.

    Pete
     
  7. Figrin-Dan_Man

    Figrin-Dan_Man Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Preferably ver hig, maybe 800 by (Insert proportionate 4x3 number here). But, I don't know your feelings on posting something that heavy, so you may just wanna send me it.


    Multiple versions could work, or I could morph the first and last frames.


    Thanks for your help.


    Fig
     
  8. Ptx

    Ptx Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'll do some small QT movies 1st.

    JPEG should be ok for final frames I ould have thought, once animated, and especially if compressed for the web.

    Why 800 x whatever, and not a TV resolution?

    Pete
     
  9. Figrin-Dan_Man

    Figrin-Dan_Man Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's even better, I just assumed you didn't wanna waste your webspace on little 'ol me.

    Are you gonna make the JPEGs too? Cool.

    Here's essentially what I need...

    A flame that doesn't go outside the boundaries of it's entirely black background. Other than that, make it fairly realistic, and be creative. Have fun. Just don't screw it up. :D


    Fig
     
  10. NickLong

    NickLong Jedi Master star 4

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    You know Pete, I'd slap Fig if I were you! :p

    anyway,

    Nick "Shorty" Long
     
  11. Ptx

    Ptx Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I have uploaded 1 file. I won't have time to create anything new until tomorrow.

    You will have to join my Yahoo group.

    http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/petespad

    It's in the files section.

    Edit: Quicktime, Sorenson 3, 320x240 @ 25 fps, >600K

    Edit 2: I am going to bed, so won't be able to approve your membership tonight (12:05 am here)

    Pete
     
  12. JediMasterM

    JediMasterM Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Heyo,
    if you wanted to send it to me, I'd be happy to host it on my server, considering I'd also like to learn how to make realistic looking fire for my fan film.

    Luke
     
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